Not that I condone the use of illegal substances, but I dont see the logic in this (well, I kinda do, but it seems flawed to me). Downers can be just as dangerous as uppers.
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Drug Study reveals that current drug classification is outdated.
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Not that I condone the use of illegal substances, but I dont see the logic in this (well, I kinda do, but it seems flawed to me). Downers can be just as dangerous as uppers.
Maybe the norm in countries that aren't run by politicians banking off of prisons
At least the social taboo is slowly melting away as the older generations die.
I never said anything about it being less dangerous. It's just personally I think it's really wrong to screw with your dopamine receptors specifically, which is the goal of uppers. I'm super against anti-depressants as well. Downers is a different ball game.
Apparently portugal legalized ALL drugs and had a great deal of success with it. The fact is, empirics show that prohibition does not decrease use, and conversely legalization does not increase use. If someone wants to use heroin despite its widely known dangers, they'll do it regardless of its legal status. Legalizing may actually decrease use of addictive drugs such as heroin and methamphetamine because there are people out there who DO want to quit, but the fact is, in our society if these people seek help, they out themselves as criminals.
As for LSD and Ecstasy specificly, I think the same rules apply; again, empirics show prohibition does not work. Getting into substances such as LSD (not so much Ecstasy, but perhaps Psilocybin and Mescaline) there should be regulations on its use (however not full on prohibition), to avoid people having psychedelic freakouts in public places. Again, IMO.
I don't think there are many physical side effects to LSD or marijuana and I don't think either are habit forming. Legalize it.
FWIW I don't even smoke the green stuff anymore.
Well, with LSD, you could die from jumping off of a building because you think you have wings.
Well, with LSD, you could die from jumping off of a building because you think you have wings.
I never saw anything that wasnt really there.
"Drugs often have more of an effect on the people who don't take them than the people who do."Well, with LSD, you could die from jumping off of a building because you think you have wings.
The fact that marijuana is still illegal is a crime in itself. There have also been several studies and personal accounts suggesting concentrated hemp oil cures cancer.
I've been studying this subject for about a year, from industrial to recreational, health to organised crime due to illegal status and many more areas, it is the most unjust law in place today in my own opinion. We have the receptors in our brain for the chemical, why can we not have it?
I smoke almost everyday, there are no side effects. Short term memory loss and schizophrenic development are both not caused by marijuana/THC.
Problem is, it makes people think.
EDIT: Seeing LSD was mentioned, there were some great studies produced in the 60's with links between 'schizophrenia', psychosis and psychedelics, including LSD, which were making great ground until media coverage and government turned the drugs into a fear process and made them illegal.
I've been studying this subject for about a year, from industrial to recreational, health to organised crime due to illegal status and many more areas, it is the most unjust law in place today in my own opinion. We have the receptors in our brain for the chemical, why can we not have it?
I smoke almost everyday, there are no side effects. Short term memory loss and schizophrenic development are both not caused by marijuana/THC.
Problem is, it makes people think.
EDIT: Seeing LSD was mentioned, there were some great studies produced in the 60's with links between 'schizophrenia', psychosis and psychedelics, including LSD, which were making great ground until media coverage and government turned the drugs into a fear process and made them illegal.
The 2nd graphic cites no source.
The 1st one cites "kookybat from fazed.net" as the source. I've never met kookybat and kookybat may very well be an upstanding individual...but "kookybat" just doesn't sound like my "go to" choice for drug info/data.
The 2nd graphic cites no source.
The 1st one cites "kookybat from fazed.net" as the source. I've never met kookybat and kookybat may very well be an upstanding individual...but "kookybat" just doesn't sound like my "go to" choice for drug info/data.
There is an article that goes with the second graphic, but you have to be a member to read it.
As for the first article's source, I'm not the author; however, I think that the company that performed the study had their name protected to prevent "bad things" from happening.
I am surprised coffee is n't on the list.
I love a nice americano from Star Bucks / Costa or something like that.
It did reach the point where I was having one every morning and I could n't do without it. It took me a couple of weeks to break the habit and now I just have one every now and than as a "naughty luxury"....
A lot of people seem to be drinking coffee at work now - it seems to have become a legitimate skive and people do make a song and dance about it, taking ages and fussing when they make it.
I wonder what damage it does if you drink it every day for years?
I worked with someone who had coffee in the morning at home, one when he arrived at work, then a can of Red Bull then a coffee after lunch. He finishes at 3.30 so he may have more stimulants after that - he smokes as well.
I thought to myself this guy is running his body at 60 mph in 2nd gear and his engine is going to fail at some point. Needless to say he looked f*cked and I later heard he was developing heart problems.
I love a nice americano from Star Bucks / Costa or something like that.
It did reach the point where I was having one every morning and I could n't do without it. It took me a couple of weeks to break the habit and now I just have one every now and than as a "naughty luxury"....
A lot of people seem to be drinking coffee at work now - it seems to have become a legitimate skive and people do make a song and dance about it, taking ages and fussing when they make it.
I wonder what damage it does if you drink it every day for years?
I worked with someone who had coffee in the morning at home, one when he arrived at work, then a can of Red Bull then a coffee after lunch. He finishes at 3.30 so he may have more stimulants after that - he smokes as well.
I thought to myself this guy is running his body at 60 mph in 2nd gear and his engine is going to fail at some point. Needless to say he looked f*cked and I later heard he was developing heart problems.
I have, but it was just swirling geometric patterns.
But were they not based on something already in existence? I tried it for the first time a few weeks ago (in the woods, earlier in the same day I asked my girlfriend to marry me). I swear, I could see all things from 5 sides at once, but everything I saw was based on something in my line of sight. Small leaves on the ground slithered like worms, I shrunk while walking on a trail between two bluffs, I saw 'constellation' lines between the stars at night. All very cool stuff.
Thread-drift - from what I've read Ecstasy can cause the same kind of permanent brain damage that Meth causes. We're talking about serious brain damage here, kiddies. Meth and Ecstasy are almost the same drug both chemically and in the way they act on the mind. They overload the hell out of the pleasure receptors in the brain, and repeated recreational use can permanently damage these receptors. Long-term users of these drugs lose the cognitive ability to experience happiness or pleasure. No, thanks!
I agree that pot should be legal though popinfresh's post is hilariously ridiculous.
I agree that pot should be legal though popinfresh's post is hilariously ridiculous.
That's my favourite! Gives you a really cool feeling for ancients and astrology in my own opinion!
Yes, prolonged use of MDMA can render the inability to produce serotonin, which is what gives our minds the feeling of happiness. Kinda funny, being that ecstacy was originally used to treat depression, while over time making you more depressed.
It still has use in psychology to help patients get over traumatic experiences during therapy sessions.
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There was recently a study conducted using MDMA with good results. Looking for link.
Sounds like prozac..
But certainly doesnt feel like it. I also tried it for the first time about a week and a half ago. Twas alright, but nothing fantastical.
Not true for all people.
I used to smoke. Then I started reacting differently to it. Started out by making me extremely lethargic, as in, had zero motivation to move or exert any effort whatsoever. It got to the point where it practically lobotomized me - I was unable to finish my own thoughts, let alone carry on a coherent conversation. I would get incredibly antisocial and paranoid. All aspects of my life started degenerating quickly. I quit cold turkey and I was back to normality.
My experiences are unique, as are yours. You cannot generalize pot by saying it 'makes people think' and 'has no side effects', because for some people it does have nasty side effects; in my case side effects so bad I had to stop all use in order to function normally.
