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Drum Triggers live

Discussion in 'Live Sound [BG]' started by Highroler79, Jan 15, 2020.

  1. Highroler79


    Apr 24, 2013
    Anyone use drum triggers live with there band?

    We just did some recordings and the drums triggered sound so much bigger and cleaner than acoustic drums. I see Roland now makes a trigger that has a built in mic and sends two outputs a mic and a trigger. I was thinking of adding this to our live sound run the trigger into a DI box then out to the FOH to be blended the the original drum sound. the trigger is Roland RT-MicS that I was looking at for snare and 2 toms, and I was going to add the Roland TM 2 with a trigger on the kick.

    Anyone have experience doing this, we are playing small to med size venues.
  2. derrico1

    derrico1 Supporting Member

    Apr 12, 2005
    Charlottesville, VA
    In small venues, using triggers on acoustic drums can be limited by how much the acoustic drums carry the room. If the SE already has all the drum faders pulled down because the drummer's heavy handed, adding a triggered sample on top of already loud drums isn't in the cards. If your drummer—and your music—are friendly to augmenting an acoustic kit with a standalone trigger or two, that can be a work-around for gigs where the SPL limits don't allow enough headroom above the ambient level of the acoustic drums.
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  3. JPaulGeddy

    JPaulGeddy Supporting Member

    Sep 19, 2007
    South Carolina
    Had a drummer that used a trigger on his kick. He never tuned it or replaced the head unless it was absolutely broken. Sounded terrible by itself, but I have to say, I liked the triggered sound. Lot easier to EQ, imo.
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  4. JKos

    JKos Supporting Member

    Oct 26, 2010
    Torrance, CA
    Did sound for a band who's drummer had a real acoustic kick drum shell with a front head but a Roland kick trigger instead of a batter head. So easy to get a killer, controlled kick sound.

    - John
    Last edited: Jan 15, 2020
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  5. tshapiro

    tshapiro Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Aug 25, 2015
    Jax Florida
    We use Roland triggers on the bass drum and snare drum into a TM-2 and sometimes a TM-6 if we trigger the Toms. Much easier and more predictable than mics. The natural sound of the drums complimented by fat and clean triggered sounds sound amazing through our PA. The ultimate is to fly 2 overhead condenser mics but we don't bother with that every show.
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  6. Highroler79


    Apr 24, 2013
    Nice I just got the kick trigger today, I'll get it all set up for practice on the weekend. Our next show is about 3 weeks away super excited to get this all set up. I have a 4 input Radial rack DI unit that I will run the triggers into so the FOH can just grab a XLR feed from there.
  7. DirtDog


    Jun 7, 2002
    The Deep North
    What’s the signal path?
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  8. promdates


    Jun 2, 2019
    Slidell, LA
    You could use the triggers to side-chain gate so that there's less cymbal bleed when recording. Obv, you record both the full mic and the trigger. So if you don't want it gated, you just deactivate the trigger.
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  9. BassGuyFL

    BassGuyFL Formerly known as RichardCranium

    Mar 9, 2009
    Boynton Bch FL
    Just be sure if you're going to go that route to buy decent triggers. My old drummer saw a thing online "how to build your own triggers for $5 in parts" and he literally wasted dozens and dozens of hours of his (and my) time trying to get them to work.
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  10. seamonkey


    Aug 6, 2004
    With recording you get midi along with great sound from the drum brain.
    The midi can be used to replace a drum sound if needed.

    For live Triggers are best with mesh heads to get 100% pure drum brain sound through FOH. No bleed.

    Need a good eDrum brain, or trigger box and a sampler (PC, IOS, or otherwise) but overall the price is not much more than mics and channels on the FOH especially when you factor in all the setup time for mics.

    Yamaha also has the EAD10 which is not triggered but much better than trying to mic an acoustic kit.
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  11. tshapiro

    tshapiro Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Aug 25, 2015
    Jax Florida
    Signal path- trigger->TM-2->Mixer
  12. mpm32


    Jan 23, 2009
  13. seamonkey


    Aug 6, 2004
    Bass players should be cautious about recommending triggers and/or Yamaha EAD10 to drummers - as they may recommend back amp sims.

    All this new tech sounds really good when applied right so everyone should keep an open mind.
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  14. Highroler79


    Apr 24, 2013
    hahahah true, I just use my darkglass DI I don't use a amp any more, both guitars are using Moore GE 300, no amps or stage noise it is great
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