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Drummer has broken his elbow!

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Sarah5string

Nov 30, 2007
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Staffordshire, England
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#1
Nightmare! My husband (our drummer) has only gone and fallen over, scratching himself up and breaking his elbow!!!! :crying:
Just as we were planning on recording our first song!!

Aside from becoming a Def Leppard cover band.. any ideas how we can get around it? How long does an broken elbow take to heal? Apparently it's only a small fracture but he's still in plaster with a check up in 2 weeks..

Talk about timing as well.. Merry Christmas.. have a broken elbow... poor bloke.
 
#5
Oh, shoot!!!

If you want him to heal faster...no soda pop. Nothing carbonated. It keeps the bones from absorbing calcium.

I broke my leg several years ago, badly. I was in a cast all summer (broke it the beginning of June), and the leg was not healing at all.

It just so happened that I shared a lunch table with a nutritionist who was lecturing to the nursing staff at the uni's student health center. She asked me about the leg, and I told her we were preparing for a re-break, and then bone grafting.

She told me to stop all carbonated beverages, and why, and I did so. Also by her recommendation, I began taking calcium supplements that included manganese. Manganese aids the absorption of calcium.

Within a month of visiting with her and taking her advice, my break was healing, and I did not have to have a re-break or grafts or anything. By six weeks, I was out of plaster, and in a walking brace. I was dancing at my birthday, the end of September.

It works!!! No soda pop or fizzy water!!!

Its important that his break heals correctly. The elbow is so important for drumming. Better to wait for recording, or get a fill-in, and get your honey healed up.

Cherie...who also married a drummer...:)
 
#7
txbasschik said:
Oh, shoot!!!

If you want him to heal faster...no soda pop. Nothing carbonated. It keeps the bones from absorbing calcium.

I broke my leg several years ago, badly. I was in a cast all summer (broke it the beginning of June), and the leg was not healing at all.

It just so happened that I shared a lunch table with a nutritionist who was lecturing to the nursing staff at the uni's student health center. She asked me about the leg, and I told her we were preparing for a re-break, and then bone grafting.

She told me to stop all carbonated beverages, and why, and I did so. Also by her recommendation, I began taking calcium supplements that included manganese. Manganese aids the absorption of calcium.

Within a month of visiting with her and taking her advice, my break was healing, and I did not have to have a re-break or grafts or anything. By six weeks, I was out of plaster, and in a walking brace. I was dancing at my birthday, the end of September.

It works!!! No soda pop or fizzy water!!!

Its important that his break heals correctly. The elbow is so important for drumming. Better to wait for recording, or get a fill-in, and get your honey healed up.

Cherie...who also married a drummer...:)
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Thanks, luckily he doesn't really drink all that many fizzy drinks so he should be ok. From what they said it looks like only a minor break so should heal pretty quick. He's got an appointment on monday back at the hospital.. presumably to check he hasn't had any more problems but he's gone back to work today and is out on the beer tonight so it doesn't seemed to be stopping him that much! A stand in isn't really an option for us at the moment but luckily we were having a break from practice for xmas anyway so hopefully by mid Jan he should be on his way to being healed up and be able to get back behind the drums. I think in the meantime we can just record the guitars and bass and then record the drums to that when he feels up to it. :)

I suppose it could've been alot worse.. he could've had tedonitis!!!! :eek:
 
#12
Sarah5string said:
Oh god... in that case it's NEVER going to heal.. I think he'd give up his drumming career before he gave up beer... LOL
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Aw well...give him the calcium/manganese, then. Being a minor break...a crack, likely?...long as he follows doc's orders and takes care of himself, it'll heal.

Or, he could cultivate a fondness for bourbon! :D;)

I figured...milk this thing! My hubby had a planned, non-refundable trip to Vegas with his buddies the day I got out of the hospital. (Too late to cancel...everything already paid for.) So...I was caring for our young son, alone, whilst on crutches and on pain meds. Slipped and fell on a tiny spot of water in the kitchen, the first day. Flat on my back.

Girl, I wanna tell you, I got to have all the whiskey I wanted, after that! All I had to say was, "Vegas...you were gone...I nearly broke my back...I can't have beer!" LOL!

Cherie ;)
 
#15
txbasschik said:
Oh, shoot!!!

If you want him to heal faster...no soda pop. Nothing carbonated. It keeps the bones from absorbing calcium.

She told me to stop all carbonated beverages, and why, and I did so. Also by her recommendation, I began taking calcium supplements that included manganese. Manganese aids the absorption of calcium.
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Well, that's partially correct. It's not the carbonation, but the caffeine that's commonly found in carbonated beverages. The CO2 found in sodas and such is no different than the CO2 in the air that you're breathing right now, so if CO2 in carbonated beverages should be avoided, then logically...

As far as the alcoholic beverages being avoided too, that is correct. Both caffeine and alcohol will not only inhibit calcium absorption, but can cause leaching of calcium from your calcium-stores (read: your bones). Calcium supplements are OK, but make sure you are aware of the RDI (reccommended daily intake), which is 1000mg/day. That number is based on an AVERAGE and should NOT be used as a minimum. Excessive intakes, 1500mg/day or more, can cause problems. More of a good thing does not = better (except in the case of sex).

As a nutrition student and dietician in training, I have a hard time recommending supplements as a general rule, since you technically can get an adequate level of nutrients through a HEALTHY BALANCED DIET (again, this is for the AVERAGE person, so this does not work for EVERYONE). BUT, and this is a big one, sometimes supplements are necessary and very helpful (like folate in a prenatal vitamin). If you're going to take a supplement, take a multivitamin. They usually don't contain as high levels of micronutrients as an individual supplement, therefore have lower risk of toxicity levels. And the namebrand multi-vitamins aren't any better than the generic brands.

Good luck, and tell your husband to just take his time and let the arm heal. Joint injuries take longer to heal than other bone breaks, because of the tendency to move them unintentionally. Don't let him back on the kit too early, and maybe look into that Def Leppard option (LOL).
 
#17
Bass Mule said:
Well, that's partially correct. It's not the carbonation, but the caffeine that's commonly found in carbonated beverages. The CO2 found in sodas and such is no different than the CO2 in the air that you're breathing right now, so if CO2 in carbonated beverages should be avoided, then logically...

As far as the alcoholic beverages being avoided too, that is correct. Both caffeine and alcohol will not only inhibit calcium absorption, but can cause leaching of calcium from your calcium-stores (read: your bones). Calcium supplements are OK, but make sure you are aware of the RDI (reccommended daily intake), which is 1000mg/day. That number is based on an AVERAGE and should NOT be used as a minimum. Excessive intakes, 1500mg/day or more, can cause problems. More of a good thing does not = better (except in the case of sex).

As a nutrition student and dietician in training, I have a hard time recommending supplements as a general rule, since you technically can get an adequate level of nutrients through a HEALTHY BALANCED DIET (again, this is for the AVERAGE person, so this does not work for EVERYONE). BUT, and this is a big one, sometimes supplements are necessary and very helpful (like folate in a prenatal vitamin). If you're going to take a supplement, take a multivitamin. They usually don't contain as high levels of micronutrients as an individual supplement, therefore have lower risk of toxicity levels. And the namebrand multi-vitamins aren't any better than the generic brands.

Good luck, and tell your husband to just take his time and let the arm heal. Joint injuries take longer to heal than other bone breaks, because of the tendency to move them unintentionally. Don't let him back on the kit too early, and maybe look into that Def Leppard option (LOL).
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Thanks very much for clearing that up. :)
 
#18
Bass Mule said:
Well, that's partially correct. It's not the carbonation, but the caffeine that's commonly found in carbonated beverages. The CO2 found in sodas and such is no different than the CO2 in the air that you're breathing right now, so if CO2 in carbonated beverages should be avoided, then logically...

As far as the alcoholic beverages being avoided too, that is correct. Both caffeine and alcohol will not only inhibit calcium absorption, but can cause leaching of calcium from your calcium-stores (read: your bones). Calcium supplements are OK, but make sure you are aware of the RDI (reccommended daily intake), which is 1000mg/day. That number is based on an AVERAGE and should NOT be used as a minimum. Excessive intakes, 1500mg/day or more, can cause problems. More of a good thing does not = better (except in the case of sex).

As a nutrition student and dietician in training, I have a hard time recommending supplements as a general rule, since you technically can get an adequate level of nutrients through a HEALTHY BALANCED DIET (again, this is for the AVERAGE person, so this does not work for EVERYONE). BUT, and this is a big one, sometimes supplements are necessary and very helpful (like folate in a prenatal vitamin). If you're going to take a supplement, take a multivitamin. They usually don't contain as high levels of micronutrients as an individual supplement, therefore have lower risk of toxicity levels. And the namebrand multi-vitamins aren't any better than the generic brands.

Good luck, and tell your husband to just take his time and let the arm heal. Joint injuries take longer to heal than other bone breaks, because of the tendency to move them unintentionally. Don't let him back on the kit too early, and maybe look into that Def Leppard option (LOL).
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I had cut out all caffiene...even coffee, which just about killed me. I'd taken to drinking gingerale and rootbeer, because they have no caffiene. But that nutritionist said that any carbonated beverage was no bueno. And I did heal quickly after following her advice.

I totally agree on taking the time to let it heal, though. If you rush yourself with an injury like this, yeah, it will heal, but it won't heal correctly, and will never be quite right again.

Cherie
 
#19
txbasschik said:
I had cut out all caffiene...even coffee, which just about killed me. I'd taken to drinking gingerale and rootbeer, because they have no caffiene. But that nutritionist said that any carbonated beverage was no bueno. And I did heal quickly after following her advice.
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It's very possible, even likely, that a well-informed nutritionist DID in fact tell you that carbonated beverages were bad. Keep in mind, that a lot of early studies, especially retrospective studies, showed a definite association between carbonated beverage consumption and bone fractures, especially studies done on physically active adolescents during the '90s. However, the mechanism wasn't fully understood back then. Also, factor in the idea that carbonated beverages in general are replacing milk consumption in the U.S., and it's easy to make a conclusion that "Consumption of carbonated beverages is linked to increased bone fractures..." (link to such study Invalid Link Removed or J Adolesc Health. 1994 May;15(3):210-5)

But, just a year after that study published in Pediatric Adolescent Medicine, 2000, the American Journal of Clinical Medicine did a slightly more definitive study, showing the actual link between urinary calcium loss and caffeine from carbonated beverages. That same study did not find a correlation between non-caffeinated carbonated beverages and urinary calcium loss. (Invalid Link Removed)

I bet if you spoke with that same nutritionist today, she may have different info. The science world is tough, because the general public wants answers, but become skeptical when the answers you give them change each decade.

Sorry for hijacking the thread. It's rare when there's a topic on TB that I can actually contribute to with scholastic, scientific evidence.

Remember:
evidence does not = proof, it simply demonstrates a correlation.
 

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