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Duff McKagan......Sound
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I'm not crazy about chorus on bass. But the bass lines in Mr. Brownstone and some of the lines on Paradise City and Welcome to the Jungle are really good.
He may not have been the best by any stretch, but he sure put together some good line to 'serve' the songs of the GNR days.
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I'll repost:
Lots of "ghost musician" work going on in L.A. during this time period.
I'll repost:
Lots of "ghost musician" work going on in L.A. during this time period.
Can you explain what you mean by that?
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Producer bringing in studio/session-level players to replace the poorly played track.
This has been going on since day-one and continues through today.
More reliance on sound replacing, timing correction, and pitch correction applications today.
Whenever I hear his name, this comes to mind:
Just puts their sound in proportion. Slash can go rest in the corner.
Just puts their sound in proportion. Slash can go rest in the corner.
Oh man Duff is kicking so much ass. He and Jason Newsted were the guys that made playing with a pick ok for me. I am really surprised this video hasn't popped in the conversation yet.
4:41, that looks like a sansamp bddi to me.
Moreover I think his tone at least on the first video is pretty simple. To me the key elements to his tone are the clarity of the solid state amp, the pick and the J bridge pickup. Concernig the EQ having played a GK rig for quite some time to me it seems that he makes extensive use of the Contour knob essentially giving him a middle mid scoop(that was not a typo)
and he then boosts the low mids just a bit to get that punchy low end.
The guitarist in my band has a pretty big Slash complex so it made a lot of sense to go for a Duff inspired tone. However I am not giving myself away the same way he does (He has A LOT of Slash Signature equipment). I play a J with quarterpounds through a SA-450 Markbass and a Mark cab loaded with 10'' drivers and I get as close to Duffs tone as I want to get.
But man other than his awesome rock tone, I think Duff is a great songwriter and a really cool bassist. Sure his lines are simple always so groovy. He is also a really smart guy and hard working guy. I used to read his finance articles and always found them really interesting. I am really happy he is through with all of his substance abuse problems and that he can put so much work out there.
I really hope I didn't sound like a fanboy...
4:41, that looks like a sansamp bddi to me.
Moreover I think his tone at least on the first video is pretty simple. To me the key elements to his tone are the clarity of the solid state amp, the pick and the J bridge pickup. Concernig the EQ having played a GK rig for quite some time to me it seems that he makes extensive use of the Contour knob essentially giving him a middle mid scoop(that was not a typo)
and he then boosts the low mids just a bit to get that punchy low end.
The guitarist in my band has a pretty big Slash complex so it made a lot of sense to go for a Duff inspired tone. However I am not giving myself away the same way he does (He has A LOT of Slash Signature equipment). I play a J with quarterpounds through a SA-450 Markbass and a Mark cab loaded with 10'' drivers and I get as close to Duffs tone as I want to get.
But man other than his awesome rock tone, I think Duff is a great songwriter and a really cool bassist. Sure his lines are simple always so groovy. He is also a really smart guy and hard working guy. I used to read his finance articles and always found them really interesting. I am really happy he is through with all of his substance abuse problems and that he can put so much work out there.
I really hope I didn't sound like a fanboy...
Bla bla bla jaco Wotan bailey all a bunch of lames. Write a good song your so damb great. All the talk I hear about the fancy crap, soloing and so on, go play guitar then. Its all crap and certainly not rock and roll. Elitist
And I'll continue. Take a Billy Sheehan, insane chops but seldom in use. He once talked about all the GIT kids flying around on their tiny strings...yeah now go play bass.
Ian hill from Judas priest, very basic stuff but do anything else and the SONGS loose all the power and force. Duff kicked ass on appetite and anyone who thinks otherwise clearly isn't a bassist but more a wannabe guitarist.
And another point, why is it that once a Rock bassist gets good, suddenly he's some elitist jazz fusion guy playing some 9 1/2 string 24 ply bubinga ******** bass? Its only rock and roll ya see. Why are soooo many bassist snobs? I recently saw satriani and his bassist had a monster pedal board with all this crap, fancy this and that, yet what I heard was little different tonal wise from say, Nikki Sixx.
Yes, all those folks who read music, who are educated about theory - what a bunch of lame-Os...
I get his basic point but he got a little overboard.
I dont think very techncially advanced players/virtuosos are usually interested in writing a song for the ages, their brains works differently....For better or worse.
The general public will never hear, say, a Wooten solo or Portrait of Tracy and think this is the kind of song i want to listen over and over and maybe have played at my funerals....
I'm part of those people but i understand that the end goal of those musicians was not to catch the mainstream's interest. Whereas it was the end goal of a band like GNR. And they succeeded well at it.
Though when i think bands that didnt value musicianship, i dont think of GNR right offhand...not virtuosos but no slouches in their genres.
I dont think very techncially advanced players/virtuosos are usually interested in writing a song for the ages, their brains works differently....For better or worse.
The general public will never hear, say, a Wooten solo or Portrait of Tracy and think this is the kind of song i want to listen over and over and maybe have played at my funerals....
I'm part of those people but i understand that the end goal of those musicians was not to catch the mainstream's interest. Whereas it was the end goal of a band like GNR. And they succeeded well at it.
Though when i think bands that didnt value musicianship, i dont think of GNR right offhand...not virtuosos but no slouches in their genres.
