Double Bass Eccles Mvt II

[Violen]

ok, so im working on my bowings, and my question starts at the beginning....

IE: The D and the G minor Chord.

Up bow and Hook them both? Im dropping down to the D on the G string for the rest of the first passage. Should i Down the D and Up the Chord?

Im kinda Boggled.

I'll have more on some later stuff but lets get this out of the way first.

 

[Estherfan]

I think up on the D and down bow on the chord is pretty standard. Then just retake down bow on the following D.

 

[eerbrev]

^^^^ what that guy said. You don't even have to retake, really. if you play the piece in the mid-to outer section of the bow you can get a nice baroque-ish sound, if you want to go that way.

Eerbrev

 

[Violen]

Thanks guys

 

[Eli_Upright12]

It might also be helpful to practice just the pick-up and the first bar, for the reason of feeling comfortable starting the piece and making that transition to the D.

 

[Les Fret]

My teacher just yesterday gave me the Eccles sonata to study.
He showed me how to do the g minor chord:
He added a low g on the A string, then play the Bb on the D string, then play the D and G harmonic. Play all these note in one fast separated down bow.

Same goes for the D major chord four bars before the end. Change the A to a lower one (open A string). Play the D as harmonic and then F# on the G string.

The chords should always be played with a down bow.

 

[eerbrev]

My teacher just yesterday gave me the Eccles sonata to study.
He showed me how to do the g minor chord:
He added a low g on the A string, then play the Bb on the D string, then play the D and G harmonic. Play all these note in one fast separated down bow.

Same goes for the D major chord four bars before the end. Change the A to a lower one (open A string). Play the D as harmonic and then F# on the G string.

The chords should always be played with a down bow.

I tried playing the Gm chord this way when i was working it up to perform. I personally prefer to play the beginning Gm chord up in thumb position as a three note, rolled chord, and play the D and Gm chords in the last bars of the movement in the method you described. I find it lets the movement build up giving the ending of the piece a little more pizazz and intensity. But that's just me. there's a recording of me playing this on youtube (kind of bad, but oh well).

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[Violen]

Dude you played that really well. Dont Be Ashamed!

Why do you feel you played it poorly? Would you be wiling to break it down for us?

 

[eerbrev]

well, as I see it, here's the things that could be improved upon. I will admit that hindsight has improved my personal viewing from when i saw it first, but i still see a lot of amateurish stuff, especially in my bow.

1st mvt
first note after the pickup is too harsh. the bow change was just not good.
cut short the B in bar 4 (i think. after the D-A in thumb position)
a few general tuning issues.
a lot of rough bow changes.
last note starts really out of tune. this bugs the crap out of me

2nd mvt
whole second movement played a bit too close to the frog. I was hoping for a lot more of a baroque kind of sound, meaning more bow, less weight. I'm pressing a lot here.

at 2:52 I fudge the notes.

the Cm chord at 3:04-3:05 is kinda bad. This is kind of because of the way i'm standing, which is almost perpendicular to the bass.

3:13-14 i cut a note short and my accompanist has to speed up to catch me. she's awesome.

The last chord didn't ring like I wanted it to.


That's the way I see it, anyways, I'm sure there's more.

Eerbrev

 

[x18karatharmony]

what i have been doing is playing the d on the g string with an up bow then d on the g string and the b flat on the d string and then catch the d and g harmonics. It sounds nice if you do it correctly. i actually just recorded this piece for my college pre-screening... check it out if you want.

It is on the media page...

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goodluck!

 

[Les Fret]

I have just started working on the 4th movement. Great stuff and good TP and bowing exercise as well!