In the 90's I worked with a guitar player who sounded like Holdsworth, but he'd get very upset if anyone ever told him he sounded like Holdsworth.
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Eddie Van Halen on Jack Bruce
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Slash, Phil Collen and Kirk Hammett certainly rank ahead of Clapton in the category of overly praised guitarists.
And on a related topic, Eddie (who I have massive respect for... innovative... scientist... he literally changed the instrument... and I love his playing and his band's music) probably has received even more credit because he was in a fantastic and successful band. Think about it -- if he wasn't in Van Halen, he could very easily be in the boat of brilliant guitarists with Allan Holdsworth, Joe Satriani and Joe Bonamassa who, while fantastic, aren't exactly household names.
Slash has certainly received a pile praise related to the band they were in over their actual abilities on the instrument.
And on a related topic, Eddie (who I have massive respect for... innovative... scientist... he literally changed the instrument... and I love his playing and his band's music) probably has received even more credit because he was in a fantastic and successful band. Think about it -- if he wasn't in Van Halen, he could very easily be in the boat of brilliant guitarists with Allan Holdsworth, Joe Satriani and Joe Bonamassa who, while fantastic, aren't exactly household names.
Slash has certainly received a pile praise related to the band they were in over their actual abilities on the instrument.
Huh. I've only ever heard Nels Cline in three different situations: with Bill Frisell, with Julian Lage, and with Wilco.
With Lage or Frisell he sounds appropriately and wonderfully simpatico; he seems able to genuinely dialog with those other fine guitarists, he knows how to find the common ground, and he collaborates sensetively to craft compelling music that strikes me as being engaging more because of the musicians' similarities than any glaring differences (much less deficiencies).
And with Wilco, since I find most of their music boringly rudimentary and sanctimoniously simplistic, Cline's guitar playing winds up being the only thing of interest to my ear!
What's not to love?
Scofield is still awesome.
i got to hear him play a couple of weeks ago at travis park downtown. he's still got it!
Predictable is a good thing in some situations, in others you want someone to stick out. Depends on the artist, the song, and the genre as to what is appropriate.
I disagree, I don't think I've heard any of them described as God the way Clapton is. Overrated perhaps, but not in the same way.
Oh yeah, he's a perfect sideman, but he still puts me to sleep, perfect for Clapton who wants that obviously.
I've not heard him with Lage or Frisell, probably since I'm not that into him I didn't look for it. I did get to see Lage and Frisell in the same week, though. Frisell solo, and Lage in his trio at a really small joint here in Cleveland.
buldog5151bass
Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.
I have very little interest in what EVH ever said, especially about other guitarists.
I hear ya... but in terms of praise vs. actual talent, I'll stick with what I wrote. It's all subjective.
Meanwhile, back with the OP's original post about the bassist Jack Bruce....
Clapton seems to attract great guitarists. Look at his Crossroads festivals.
When I think of great guitarists Nuno Bettencourt, Slash, SRV, (never Jimmy), Albert Lee, Joe Satriani, Jeff Beck and others come to mind. Isn’t it interesting that they all had notable rhythm sections?
When I think of great guitarists Nuno Bettencourt, Slash, SRV, (never Jimmy), Albert Lee, Joe Satriani, Jeff Beck and others come to mind. Isn’t it interesting that they all had notable rhythm sections?
While the Beatles are what made me want to play in a rock and roll band (which I never actually did) it was Jack who made me want to play bass. The song Eddie mentioned is one of my favorite Cream recordings. Nowadays I find that except for Crossroads the live stuff on Wheels Of Fire is pretty boring, but what ended up on Goodbye and the two Live Cream LPs still stands up.
Eric has had his moments, but he's also had some Mediocre ones..
Eddie and the shred army he spawed has never been my thing.
I was always a Johnny Winter guy when it came to guitar gods... or Zappa.
But he was right on about Jack Bruce.
Eddie and the shred army he spawed has never been my thing.
I was always a Johnny Winter guy when it came to guitar gods... or Zappa.
But he was right on about Jack Bruce.
This could be fake news and please correct me if so, but I thought EVH grew bitter with Clapton (and stopped revering him the same way) who didn’t express any mutual respect to EVH, even though EVH is clearly deserving of as much admiration as one can earn.
Either way, IMO Clapton sucks and has always sucked, Cream sucked, but Bruce’s bass playing was always a highlight of the group.
