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Eden 210XT vs 210XLTand 210XST

puff father

puff father

Jan 20, 2006
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'Lo lowsters!

I presently have an Eden 210T single port cabinet. I use it full range with an old Eastern Acoustics 1X15 cab and get a pretty good sound through my GK 800RB. I run the 1x15 off the "low" amp and plug the 2x10 into the 100W "high" amp.

What I am considering is getting rid of the two 1x15 cabs I have and acquiring a 210XLT to go with my 210T. Lately I have been reading here about 210XLT with 210XST being a good combo. :hmm: I'm wondering if any of you have had experience with the 210t compared to the xlt and xst cabs. Do I need to dump the t in favor of the xlt or xst? There is no place near here for me to try them out. All I know is that the t has one port, the xlt has two. The xst has different drivers and back to one port.

If it helps, I will eventually (hopefully soon) be retiring the 800RB in favor of an Eden WT550 to go with two 2x10 cabs.

I will appreciate any input you have to offer.

Thanks, peace.

Al

:bassist:
 
#4
I noticed the XST and XLT series speakers both allow the natural tone of the bass guitar to come out clearly. The main difference between the two of them:

XST - no midrange emphasized growl, very smooth tone, clear low end and goes lower than XLT, highs are clear, 210XST kicks many 15" bass cabs to the curb in terms of low end output. Very nice and balanced for the tone.

XLT - More midrange growl, great highs, low end is solid, but not as low as the XST (not really a big deal). Very aggressive sounding.

justBrian - as he suggested the Eden Forum is the place to go to get Eden answers.

Do you have a SamAsh near you? They carry Eden speakers and amps now.
 
#8
The 210XLT and 210XST is the most ideal 410 rig you can assemble. I dunno if you'd want to change the way you run your amp, but the most efficient use of these cabs is to run them full-range, and allow the cabs themselves to deliver the tone they're designed to give you. There really isn't a need to bi-amp when using these cabs. The only way I can explain it, is to go test it for yourself. First, play these cabs with your amp as you would expect to, then run them full-range. I'm sure you'll prefer the latter setup.
 
#10
The old T cabs are a whole different world from the new cabs. Its the last (the pinnacle?) of the old breed of 2x10s that handled roughly 250 watts and sounded great, if a little quiet, and were tentative below low E.

Then the music industry listened to what we'd been begging for, and everyone came out with a louder 350 watt 2x10 that handled 5 string bass better. That's the XLT. The only problem is they changed the tone quite a bit too, and some people find those boxes a bit honky, especially with a P-bass or other low-mid strong bass.

SO, they responded again to market feedback with the XST (the only one of the bunch I have not tried) that is supposed to have a sweeter, more balanced tone than the XLT, is not quite as "loud" as the XLT, but is much louder than the T and should handle low B well.

I'd like to try an XST, personally, but if I were you I'd hang on to that T until you're completely sure you like your new cab, since those Ts have a great sound. The 210T + 115T stack was particularly tasty IMO.

Running a 210T with either of the new breed of cabs is very unlikely to work out well.
 

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