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Barefaced Two10 vs Big Baby 3?

Barefaced Two10 is a 2x10 that's designed 'for bass' and allegedly has a bit of a 'rounder' but still 'clear' sound to it that a lot of people love.

Barefaced Big Baby 3 is supposed to be a FRFR solution that measures 'dead flat' and 'does not add any coloring'. That would require that all of my tone come from my bass, board, or amp (which I'm not inherently opposed to since I just go FOH/IEM these days).


Both cabs measure "30Hz - 20kHz". I don't really know what that means, but the lower the better. Now, before y'all start jumping in your britches about that comment, let me settle ya down again just briefly. I play a 5-string. The low B is a ~31Hz fundamental. When I drop to A, that's a ~28Hz fundamental. Speaker boxes are often rated (regarding roll-off) in terms of -3dB (when your ear starts noticing it's getting quieter) OR -10dB (when it sounds 'half as loud' to the ear). I don't know if BF's ratings are -3dB or -10dB, but I want to retain as much of the fundamental as possible and then use my adjustable HPF as necessary. Yes, there's timbre, harmonics, and overtones that our ears 'perceive' as the note without actually playing the note, but there's simply no replacement for hitting the fundamental with authority. I had an Ampeg SVT 410HLF back in the day and nothing modern has come close to the authority that cab had on the low B. Not just "big scoop sound with bass boost at 60Hz" mud, but actually feeling 31 individual bursts of air per second on my leg hairs. That's what I'm after again (thought maybe not necessarily at that volume and weight).

Anybody have experiences with both of these cabs that would be willing to share thoughts?

I've got this weird idea in my head to just build an FRFR system and use it for electric guitar as well (in which case, the BB3 is likely the correct choice), but I don't know that I'm married to that just yet.
 
Barefaced Two10 is a 2x10 that's designed 'for bass' and allegedly has a bit of a 'rounder' but still 'clear' sound to it that a lot of people love.

Barefaced Big Baby 3 is supposed to be a FRFR solution that measures 'dead flat' and 'does not add any coloring'. That would require that all of my tone come from my bass, board, or amp (which I'm not inherently opposed to since I just go FOH/IEM these days).


Both cabs measure "30Hz - 20kHz". I don't really know what that means, but the lower the better. Now, before y'all start jumping in your britches about that comment, let me settle ya down again just briefly. I play a 5-string. The low B is a ~31Hz fundamental. When I drop to A, that's a ~28Hz fundamental. Speaker boxes are often rated (regarding roll-off) in terms of -3dB (when your ear starts noticing it's getting quieter) OR -10dB (when it sounds 'half as loud' to the ear). I don't know if BF's ratings are -3dB or -10dB, but I want to retain as much of the fundamental as possible and then use my adjustable HPF as necessary. Yes, there's timbre, harmonics, and overtones that our ears 'perceive' as the note without actually playing the note, but there's simply no replacement for hitting the fundamental with authority. I had an Ampeg SVT 410HLF back in the day and nothing modern has come close to the authority that cab had on the low B. Not just "big scoop sound with bass boost at 60Hz" mud, but actually feeling 31 individual bursts of air per second on my leg hairs. That's what I'm after again (thought maybe not necessarily at that volume and weight).

Anybody have experiences with both of these cabs that would be willing to share thoughts?

I've got this weird idea in my head to just build an FRFR system and use it for electric guitar as well (in which case, the BB3 is likely the correct choice), but I don't know that I'm married to that just yet.
Did you ask Alex?

No direct experience with them, but from what I know of my One10 and Super Compact, and for your tonal goals, I think you'll be happier with the BB3.
 
I have owned both. Apples & oranges. The BB3 is pretty flat and can go as low/deep as you like.....uber clean-gives what you put into it. The 210 doesn't go as low and gives vintage paper cone distortion when pushed....much more inherent mids. Similar overall volume output. The 210 is a particular flavour that's delicious but is far less versatile. If you want big lows/ clean the BB3 is the way.
 
Did you ask Alex?

No direct experience with them, but from what I know of my One10 and Super Compact, and for your tonal goals, I think you'll be happier with the BB3.

Yeah, we chatted a bit and got off on a tangent about mountain biking. Super cool dude! Always nice to get additional opinions from fellow players too!
 
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I have owned both. Apples & oranges. The BB3 is pretty flat and can go as low/deep as you like.....uber clean-gives what you put into it. The 210 doesn't go as low and gives vintage paper cone distortion when pushed....much more inherent mids. Similar overall volume output. The 210 is a particular flavour that's delicious but is far less versatile. If you want big lows/ clean the BB3 is the way.

Does it have a pristine transient response all of the way through? I'm having a bit of a hard time believing that 2 drivers can cover the entire 30Hz - 20kHz range without support simply due to the physics required to make that happen while also retaining exquisite detail in the sound.
 
Does it have a pristine transient response all of the way through? I'm having a bit of a hard time believing that 2 drivers can cover the entire 30Hz - 20kHz range without support simply due to the physics required to make that happen while also retaining exquisite detail in the sound.

I won't pretend to be able to tell with my ears whether the transient response is "pristine" or not.
 
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I had a BB3 cab and a Supertwin and they sounded similar as both had 12” speakers. Avoided the 10” cabs as they suffered from Tolex peel badly.
I sold both of them and prefer the Genzler ULV212 cab ( they also offer a UL112 cab ) and it sounds warmer and nicer to my ears. Not rated as high in watts but it’s a great single use cab and is worth considering as an alternative
 
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You want the BB3. I had a Two10 and I own a pair of BB2 cabs. The Two10 sounds better as a voiced bass cab and will make many players happy. If you are prioritizing the deepest lows, go with the BB3. I used my BB2 pair as a passive PA with a mixer and power amp to play samples and synths and vocals through, as well as bass. Not usually bass with all the other playback material. It was either/or.

As a bass cab the BB2 (or 3) is fine but not particularly voiced. You might want a cab sim or other filters and EQ to get the sound you're after. I used a Omni Cab Sim Deluxe. The Two10 was much easier to get a plug-n-play sound for bass. You'll probably be fine with the BB3 compression driver off if you use a bit of drive. You just don't need what it offers, or at least not much of it. If you want a bright clean sound, then turn it up.
 
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That's the cheaper PF series. The SVT-410HLF is 48Hz@-3dB and 28Hz@-10dB IIRC.

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