Effective way to dye through veneers?

[IAmTheAntipop]

Hello!

I'd like to dye a veneer black so I can put it between my top and my body, I already added one ''layer'' on dye and made a cut into the veneer to see if it had dyed through the wood but it still was the original color, should I just continue to stain it until it stains through the wood or is there another effective method?

 

[reverendrally]

Honestly, just buy some.

I know that sound exy, but really it works. Otherwise there's a whole bun-fight of...
A. Finding the right dye/colour.
B. Dying the timber effectively.
C. Cleaning up. (seems silly, but trust me it can be an EPIC fail)
D. Finding a glue that doesn't make the dye run

If you really want to do it the hard way... you want to find some epic dye that you need industrial thinners to clean it up with. I reckon everything else will run when you try to glue it.

 

[michaelwayneharwood]

Many of the dyed veneers you find have been through a system that uses a vacuum to get the dyes to penetrate all the way through the veneer. If you are interested in a system like that you might check [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] article out. You can also boil the veneer in water colored with the dye. It takes some time and you will need to experiment a bit to find a process that works.

 

[IAmTheAntipop]

Honestly, just buy some.

Sadly, I never found any dyed veneer that had the right dimensions, the veneers on lmii are only 6'' wide, i'd need 7'' for each sheet...I guess I'll do a research to boil them, I'll post what I found later, thanks for the answers!

 

[FBB Custom]

Go to a veneer vendor.

example: [This invalid link has been removed]

I have no affiliation with this company but I have purchased from them. I have used their black dyed veneer and it is excellent. There are other vendors with more colors. Most places will pick the dimensions you need.
It's only $2.50 a sq ft for dyed veneer. I can't imagine boiling veneers is cost effective, even if it somehow managed to work.

 

[reverendrally]

There are companies that sell big sheets of veneer. They'd have to make them 4' x 6' for big installations and laminations.

 

[Smilodon]

Sadly, I never found any dyed veneer that had the right dimensions, the veneers on lmii are only 6'' wide, i'd need 7'' for each sheet...I guess I'll do a research to boil them, I'll post what I found later, thanks for the answers!

Can't you just glue together two pieces to get a 12" wide piece? As long as you prepare the edges properly you would never see the glue line.

 

[IAmTheAntipop]

Can't you just glue together two pieces to get a 12" wide piece? As long as you prepare the edges properly you would never see the glue line.

Well actually i'd need 3 veneers since the width of my bass is almost 14'', but yeah that's my second option, now that I bought ''non-black'' veneers i'll try to dye them properly first.

 

[pilotjones]

http://www.wood-veneers.com/table-2.htm
a few lines down stock# 7263-70-a3: black standard thickness tulipier veneer, 23 H x 18.5 W, 7 sheets available as of two days ago
the tulipier is a good, dense (non-porous) wood, I have used a lot of the black on my current build

done

 

[Deep Cat]

http://www.wood-veneers.com/table-2.htm
a few lines down stock# 7263-70-a3: black standard thickness tulipier veneer, 23 H x 18.5 W, 7 sheets available as of two days ago
the tulipier is a good, dense (non-porous) wood, I have used a lot of the black on my current build

done

Book and Marked.

 

[IAmTheAntipop]

http://www.wood-veneers.com/table-2.htm
a few lines down stock# 7263-70-a3: black standard thickness tulipier veneer, 23 H x 18.5 W, 7 sheets available as of two days ago
the tulipier is a good, dense (non-porous) wood, I have used a lot of the black on my current build

done

Sorry for replying so late...But the problem is that they don't ship to Canada(should've mentionned it haha), I'll try to talk to them to see if they can make an exception, I don't see why it would be a problem for them. But if any of you guys have other ideas where to get veneers it would be great!

 

[michaelwayneharwood]

Go to a veneer vendor.

example: [This invalid link has been removed]

I have no affiliation with this company but I have purchased from them. I have used their black dyed veneer and it is excellent. There are other vendors with more colors. Most places will pick the dimensions you need.
It's only $2.50 a sq ft for dyed veneer. I can't imagine boiling veneers is cost effective, even if it somehow managed to work.

Sorry for the necro thread, but do you remember the shipping costs? I have been finding shipping to be prohibitive on some vendors (as much as $18 for an $8 item).

 

[FBB Custom]

No, but I'm sure if you called they'd tell you. Veneers have to be rolled and boxed so there is a cost to shipping them that you can't really avoid. $18 seems a bit high but not much when you factor in materials.

 

[michaelwayneharwood]

Thanks for the reply. I have purchased veneer from LMII, and it did not come rolled up, nor was the shipping so exorbitant, so it surprised me.

 

[FBB Custom]

Thanks for the reply. I have purchased veneer from LMII, and it did not come rolled up, nor was the shipping so exorbitant, so it surprised me.

You don't roll them if they are very small, which LMII's veneers are. You roll the long ones not just to fit them in a smaller package but to protect them.
LMII charges a premium for their dimensioned veneers so you save a couple of bucks on shipping but you end up paying more per square foot.
Not meant to disparage LMII at all, they are a good company that offers great services. But there is a quantity at which buying from a veneer specialist is more cost effective in spite of shipping, and that quantity is not very high.
If you are doing a one off, then you may come out ahead using LMII's veneers.