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EHX Big Muff problem

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by flakeh, Jun 7, 2007.


  1. flakeh

    flakeh Inactive

    Apr 21, 2007
    Ontario, Canada
    Just bought myself a Big Muff PI, I usually play in either Drop-D or drop-d down a step tuning, and im finding it has terrible bottom end. It just blends everything into one incoherent jumble of sound. Is there any setting i can use to stop this? I have volume at 10 o'clock, tone at 5 o'clock, and sustain at 11 o'clock if that helps any.

    Also, Whenever i use my wah after the muff, it makes a terrible squealing sound and sets off the limiter on my amp, how can i prevent that too? or do i have crappy gear :crying:

    -flakeh
     
  2. JanusZarate

    JanusZarate Low End Avenger

    Feb 21, 2006
    Petaluma, CA, USA
    Whoa, wait - Tone at 5 o'clock and Sustain at 11 o'clock?

    That sounds like it'd be nothing but high-end buzz! :eek:

    Big Muff pedals naturally get less stable as you turn up the Sustain. It's the nature of the Muff sound on bass.

    I don't understand why you're using it with the tone set so high. With the Sustain up, it takes good technique to keep notes defined on that pedal, but why would you crank up the Tone THAT much???

    On my Little Big Muff, turning it up past 1 o'clock doesn't do any favors for the bottom end. I usually keep it at 11 o'clock, and it works great in drop-D.

    And why a Dunlop guitar wah? The one you've got does NOT work well on bass - it kills a lot of low end, in my experience. Some guitar wahs can, but that's not one of them.

    As for the squeal... I'm not sure what might be happening. But I'm tempted to cite your Behringer gear as the culprit :D
     
  3. sonicvi

    sonicvi

    Jun 10, 2005
    Houston, TX
    I have mine with the sustain and tone knobs full up, but then I have very little treble in my clean tone.
     
  4. Stu L.

    Stu L.

    Nov 27, 2001
    Corsicana, Texas
    Whoa, wait... :D

    Mine does. Granted I modded the circuit very heavily, but it's still a Dunlop GCB-95 housing ;)
     
  5. SpankyPants

    SpankyPants That's Mr. SpankyPants to you.

    Aug 24, 2006
    Brooklyn, NY
    This is one of the big reasons why I've got a Mammoth on its way to me. If that doesn't work, then I'll spring for a Bluebeard.
     
  6. DbNBassist

    DbNBassist

    Aug 12, 2006
    Britain
    I have everything on my big muff set FULLY CRANKED!!!! Well thats when i use it and my guitarist gives it back!
     
  7. Hm, maybe that's what he means with "terrible low end". The tone knob works on both sides of the sound, minimal is full bass, no treble, max is full treble, no bass. I use mine in the mid-zone, mostly at 11 o'clock or something.

    As for the sustain, it's also most of the time around 11, I roll down my bass' volume to vary it.

    That squeal... :D That's the superb wah-after-muff fat-analog-synthesizer-sound in your rig you've discovered!! I play with that lots of times, ideal for stealing the show! :bassist: Indeed, it's rather demanding on your amp though.
    But if you really can't control it, there probably is something wrong with your gear...:meh:

    By the way, what I'd find rather useful is a volume PEDAL on the muff. Might try that sometime...
     
  8. Im with Boo on this one... Subtle adjustments to the muff are the go, or like you say, your bottom end just turns to fuzz... :meh:
     
  9. deadstar

    deadstar

    Sep 2, 2005
    Does anyone know what mod dirk lance from incubus had on his big muff PI in the song Calgone on the album S.C.I.E.N.C.E.? Im sure its a big muff PI nd really would love to know once and for all how it was modded lol, cheers!
     
  10. He had the clean blended in, quite heavily from the sounds of things. Thats the sound of Warwick clean tone with a fair bit of fuzz added on another channel.
     
  11. flakeh

    flakeh Inactive

    Apr 21, 2007
    Ontario, Canada
    Sorry for not checking my thread, I've been busy.

    Yes, I do use a guitar wah, it is also heavily modded, with most of it being a 105 bass wah on the inside, but with a few parts from the 95Q.

    My settings on the muff don't sound like high end buzz, they are really good with every string other then the low one, when i play that, all i get is incoherent jumble and fuzz.

    AND I made a mistake, i was looking at my guitarist muff when I wrote that, I have everything at 11 o'clock

    NO its not my behringer stuff! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr:mad: I sold my ashdown rig for this behringer one and I think its better.
     
  12. DbNBassist

    DbNBassist

    Aug 12, 2006
    Britain
    I think Spanky just had a heart attack!
     
  13. JanusZarate

    JanusZarate Low End Avenger

    Feb 21, 2006
    Petaluma, CA, USA
    Spanky wasn't the only one, that's for sure...

    Anyhow...

    Roll back the Sustain. As I mentioned before, the nature of a Big Muff pedal in general is to get crazier with more Sustain. It'll get muddier as you turn it up, especially on lower notes.

    That's probably the only significant drawback of the Big Muff. As for the low end... which Big Muff do you have?
     
  14. SpankyPants

    SpankyPants That's Mr. SpankyPants to you.

    Aug 24, 2006
    Brooklyn, NY
    Call the surgeon!
     
  15. flakeh

    flakeh Inactive

    Apr 21, 2007
    Ontario, Canada
    Haha, Sorry spanky, I'll send you some money to pay for the health care, unless your in Canada, then, enjoy your stay at the hospital.

    I had an Ashdown MAG300 with a 210 and 115, it had terrible buzz problem, the controls on mine were utter junk, the bass EQ did nothing. And the warranty was brutal, only 12 months. So, I took it back, and i was not pleased with my ashdown purchase. So, i tried a few amps, and this behringer cuaght my eye, and it had a 2 year manufactures warranty . So I'm pleased with it so far. Again, Sorry spanky, I hope you get well soon :crying:

    I have Two muffs, The sovtek one is seeming to work better with the low end, hm, and I have the PI re-issue
     
  16. SpankyPants

    SpankyPants That's Mr. SpankyPants to you.

    Aug 24, 2006
    Brooklyn, NY
    No worries. :D Plenty of hot nurses to keep me busy.

    But if it works for ya, then go ahead. I've just been burned too many times. :meh: Behringer is not for me.

    I'm the kind of guy that always loses when he takes a risk. Many people (not on TB) think I'm over-the-top with the type of gear that I buy, but I've always gotten what I paid for. If it's too good to be true, then I get screwed. So I just save my pennies from now on and buy gear with an extra picky flare!
     
  17. flakeh

    flakeh Inactive

    Apr 21, 2007
    Ontario, Canada
    I did that with the ashdown rig. I was terribly saddened. I saved up my pennies that i found in the couch (20$ worth of coins :eek: :eek: ) and thought "hell, this seems worth the money, why not?" and then third week in, 'hmm that buzz shouldn't be so buzzy, that knob shouldn't be so useless hmm that sounds like bum...'

    Hey, atleast those hot bnurses will keep you 'busy'

    all the nurse at my hospital are old and smell funny :(
     
  18. JanusZarate

    JanusZarate Low End Avenger

    Feb 21, 2006
    Petaluma, CA, USA
    You might want to look for pedals with glow-in-the-dark print instead, since the audience may not appreciate the use of painfully bright emergency signals onstage. :meh:

    I think you meant "flair" :p
     
  19. flakeh

    flakeh Inactive

    Apr 21, 2007
    Ontario, Canada
    My band launched a flare at a BOTB some random place was hosting. never seem a bunch of people freak out so much so fast :bassist:

    we got asked to leave :(
     
  20. SpankyPants

    SpankyPants That's Mr. SpankyPants to you.

    Aug 24, 2006
    Brooklyn, NY
    No. I actually set gear on fire and use whichever works in the end.


    Duuuh. :p
     
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