Well the ones I heard last week had that awful 80's sound to them. It was a quickie decision to go with the ED so maybe he just didn't bother tweaking or perhaps he has an older set that doesn't have that flexibility.
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Well the ones I heard last week had that awful 80's sound to them. It was a quickie decision to go with the ED so maybe he just didn't bother tweaking or perhaps he has an older set that doesn't have that flexibility.
The drummer in the cover band I play in has electronic toms, acoustic everything else. For him it's easier to fit in the car and carry to the venue, for the rest of us it's nice that he can dial in a handclap sound, huge 80's gated toms, or normal sounding toms. It also takes up a bit less space on cramped stages.
I'd never use them for recording to replace real toms, tho, they don't sound THAT good.
Morgan
I'd never use them for recording to replace real toms, tho, they don't sound THAT good.
Morgan
There are a lot of options these days
from TrapKat pads triggering synth or samples through midi
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This is the most responsive, sensitive surface I've come across
and +1 on the Steven Slate sets
very popular among some weding bands where drummers have gotten tired of lugging equipment
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straight ahead electronic kits and Alesis controllers
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acoustic kits with triggers on the heads. A lot of studios are using these to capture a drummer on their own kit, but then mixing or replacing the drum sounds with high-end samples.
from TrapKat pads triggering synth or samples through midi
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This is the most responsive, sensitive surface I've come across
and +1 on the Steven Slate sets
very popular among some weding bands where drummers have gotten tired of lugging equipment
to
straight ahead electronic kits and Alesis controllers
to
acoustic kits with triggers on the heads. A lot of studios are using these to capture a drummer on their own kit, but then mixing or replacing the drum sounds with high-end samples.
What, you mean you don't want that Def Leppard Pyromania snare on your rendition of "Brown Eyed Girl"?
They can be a lifesaver in a bad room. I had a pickup gig at a party held in a large car museum. Concrete floors, lots of glass, gym like acoustics. A real reverb tank. If I had played an acoustic kit there it would have been terrible!
What, you mean you don't want that Def Leppard Pyromania snare on your rendition of "Brown Eyed Girl"?
BAHAHAHAH!!
A previous band I played in had during it's existence three different drummers who all used hybrid kits (pads triggering electronic sounds, acoustic hihats and cymbals). All used exactly the same triggered drum sounds that came from my racks of synths and samplers. However according to people in the audience the second of the three drummers had the best drum sound. The reason? He used a damped acoustic kit with bugs on the skins to trigger the electronic sounds. The actual acoustic sound this kit produced was negligible in a gig situation, but because his drums looked like a "normal" drum kit the audience thought it sounded better, despite the fact that the actual sounds coming out of the PA were identical fro all three drummers.
The first "real band" I was in, the drummer had a hybrid kit. He had two kick drums, four mounted toms, and two or three floor toms. He triggered everything with two D-4s and had a pad for effect sounds. His toms were filled tight with styrofoam peanuts. When he hit them they made basically no sound whatsoever. His kit, to me anyway, sounded really nice. He spent a while dialing in the sound on the drums he wanted. and then he could take this massive kit into any situation and play at the volume the show needed. He sent two channels to the board, one from each of the D-4s. All of those drums took two channels, and a couple for overheads.
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My drummer uses the Roland Edrum kit every gig - 80's urban/ dance chick music band - owns 5 acoustic kits but the drums work great.
IT Allows any "80's sound" he needs, he uses IEM with a click and with my bass mostly in the PA and his drums and the Keys in thePA the stage volume is so low I hear mostly the rubber thwap on the cymbals.
Works very nicely and I no longer have to listen to all that drum noise all night - cymbals in the ear, etc
IT Allows any "80's sound" he needs, he uses IEM with a click and with my bass mostly in the PA and his drums and the Keys in thePA the stage volume is so low I hear mostly the rubber thwap on the cymbals.
Works very nicely and I no longer have to listen to all that drum noise all night - cymbals in the ear, etc
Ok I'm gonna need a definition on what "80's urban/ dance chick music band " actually is?
I own both an acoustic kit and an electric kit so I think I'm qualified to comment on this.
First and formost, if the term "electronic drums" makes you think of that cheesy '80's "pyew pyew pyew" synth sound forget about it. Those sounds were created manipulating a sine wave like an old school keyboard. Today you have samples of audio recorded from actual drums, and with MIDI you have access to all of the software libraries that keyboard players use as well as triggering lights or even video! The truth is you have already heard electronic kits and probably didn't even know it. Almost everything in the rock world these days has "sweetening" from a layered drum track using samples or triggers.
In terms of playability its much like an acoustic guitar verses electric. They are the same, yet slightly different. However with the right equipment you CAN do cymbal chokes, use brushes, or on the top V-Drum kit brain you can even compress your hi-hats by mashing on th e foot pedal and you will get that subtle pitch bend of the two plates getting smashed tighter together. It's pretty amazing.
Additionally, having an E-kit means you can change the sound of the kit from song to song in a cover band. For example, you can go from an open and midly Bonham sound for a Zep cover to a tighter modern sound for a Pantera tune, then finish off the set with some club track with a hip hop kit. It's pretty cool.
For the stage, going to E-Drums helps reduce volume wars between band members. Well guitarists may take some convincing
E-drums also require less stage real estate which allows more room for the rest of the band to breathe and move around, but more importantly it allows your band to fit in smaller venues and get more gigs you otherwise might not have a chance at.
The look may be a no-go for some people but companies like Pearl offer a "normal" looking acoustic kit for an E-kit. In addition there are companies that make custom drum shells for E-Drums such as Diamond Electronic Drums. Additionally you could always plant an acoustic kick drum out front and cover up the trigger pad.
There are down sides to E-kits, and crappy power is one of them. If the club has shakey power you could fry your "drums" just as quickly as you pop a fuse on an amp. Power conditioners are a must.
I like E-kits but I also love A-kits. They are both awesome, just like a double bass is cool like a P-bass is cool.
Well I hope this helps, and for those of you that are maybe just starting to consider an E-Kit, take a closer look, and don't be afraid of what other's might think. You may be pleasantly surprised.
First and formost, if the term "electronic drums" makes you think of that cheesy '80's "pyew pyew pyew" synth sound forget about it. Those sounds were created manipulating a sine wave like an old school keyboard. Today you have samples of audio recorded from actual drums, and with MIDI you have access to all of the software libraries that keyboard players use as well as triggering lights or even video! The truth is you have already heard electronic kits and probably didn't even know it. Almost everything in the rock world these days has "sweetening" from a layered drum track using samples or triggers.
In terms of playability its much like an acoustic guitar verses electric. They are the same, yet slightly different. However with the right equipment you CAN do cymbal chokes, use brushes, or on the top V-Drum kit brain you can even compress your hi-hats by mashing on th e foot pedal and you will get that subtle pitch bend of the two plates getting smashed tighter together. It's pretty amazing.
Additionally, having an E-kit means you can change the sound of the kit from song to song in a cover band. For example, you can go from an open and midly Bonham sound for a Zep cover to a tighter modern sound for a Pantera tune, then finish off the set with some club track with a hip hop kit. It's pretty cool.
For the stage, going to E-Drums helps reduce volume wars between band members. Well guitarists may take some convincing
E-drums also require less stage real estate which allows more room for the rest of the band to breathe and move around, but more importantly it allows your band to fit in smaller venues and get more gigs you otherwise might not have a chance at.The look may be a no-go for some people but companies like Pearl offer a "normal" looking acoustic kit for an E-kit. In addition there are companies that make custom drum shells for E-Drums such as Diamond Electronic Drums. Additionally you could always plant an acoustic kick drum out front and cover up the trigger pad.
There are down sides to E-kits, and crappy power is one of them. If the club has shakey power you could fry your "drums" just as quickly as you pop a fuse on an amp. Power conditioners are a must.
I like E-kits but I also love A-kits. They are both awesome, just like a double bass is cool like a P-bass is cool.
Well I hope this helps, and for those of you that are maybe just starting to consider an E-Kit, take a closer look, and don't be afraid of what other's might think. You may be pleasantly surprised.
I own both an acoustic kit and an electric kit so I think I'm qualified to comment on this.
First and formost, if the term "electronic drums" makes you think of that cheesy '80's "pyew pyew pyew" synth sound forget about it. Those sounds were created manipulating a sine wave like an old school keyboard. Today you have samples of audio recorded from actual drums, and with MIDI you have access to all of the software libraries that keyboard players use as well as triggering lights or even video! The truth is you have already heard electronic kits and probably didn't even know it. Almost everything in the rock world these days has "sweetening" from a layered drum track using samples or triggers.
In terms of playability its much like an acoustic guitar verses electric. They are the same, yet slightly different. However with the right equipment you CAN do cymbal chokes, use brushes, or on the top V-Drum kit brain you can even compress your hi-hats by mashing on th e foot pedal and you will get that subtle pitch bend of the two plates getting smashed tighter together. It's pretty amazing.
Additionally, having an E-kit means you can change the sound of the kit from song to song in a cover band. For example, you can go from an open and midly Bonham sound for a Zep cover to a tighter modern sound for a Pantera tune, then finish off the set with some club track with a hip hop kit. It's pretty cool.
For the stage, going to E-Drums helps reduce volume wars between band members. Well guitarists may take some convincing
The look may be a no-go for some people but companies like Pearl offer a "normal" looking acoustic kit for an E-kit. In addition there are companies that make custom drum shells for E-Drums such as Diamond Electronic Drums. Additionally you could always plant an acoustic kick drum out front and cover up the trigger pad.
There are down sides to E-kits, and crappy power is one of them. If the club has shakey power you could fry your "drums" just as quickly as you pop a fuse on an amp. Power conditioners are a must.
I like E-kits but I also love A-kits. They are both awesome, just like a double bass is cool like a P-bass is cool.
Well I hope this helps, and for those of you that are maybe just starting to consider an E-Kit, take a closer look, and don't be afraid of what other's might think. You may be pleasantly surprised.
Thanks for the input. Even though my experience was with a kit that had that hmmm what did you call it? "pyew pyew pyew" synth sound forget" LOL!! I still liked it and thought the concept had great potential especially for small private parties, etc.
