EMG 35HZ without preamp?

[BOOG]

I have a Spector currently with stock pickups and tonepump jr. (V-V-BASS BOOST-TREBLE BOOST)

What I would like to do is have a passive bass. (V-T-V-T)

From what I am seeing in the schematics on their website, I should be able to do this with two sets of 35HZ.

However, when I spoke with one of their reps, he was saying that I would need a BTS SYSTEM HZ. This seems to counter my goal.

Am I not understanding something? Will I achieve the goal with just two sets of 35HZ.

 

[crguti]

found this (and the search is your friend):

 

[ctmullins]

Yep. If you want a bass that doesn’t use batteries, then the BTS is off the table.

And yes, two 35HZ will get you there. I believe they come with the tone pots and the wiring already, which should make things easier and cheaper for you.

 

[iiipopes]

I played a pair of the 40 Hz for awhile about a decade ago without pre - same pickup, just in the 40 size instead of the 35 size. It was a little middy and lacked definition. It does alright with an EMG EXB, but I ended up just swapping them out for EMG full actives.

 

[BOOG]

found this (and the search is your friend):

Yeah, I did search. Didn’t find what I was looking for. Was that really necessary to type?

 

[BOOG]

Yep. If you want a bass that doesn’t use batteries, then the BTS is off the table.

And yes, two 35HZ will get you there. I believe they come with the tone pots and the wiring already, which should make things easier and cheaper for you.

Thank you for the confirmation

 

[BOOG]

I played a pair of the 40 Hz for awhile about a decade ago without pre - same pickup, just in the 40 size instead of the 35 size. It was a little middy and lacked definition. It does alright with an EMG EXB, but I ended up just swapping them out for EMG full actives.

Thanks. Yes, I have three bass’s that are active but, I don’t want the Spector to be. The Warwick and ESP-LTD can do the job in that department. Generally, I prefer a passive bass and this swap will enable another but, out of the FSO category.

 

[NigelD]

Use diagram 6 or 10 (w/o switch) EMG 40HZ wiring instructions on EMG website.

 

[Old Garage-Bander]

Yeah, I did search. Didn’t find what I was looking for. Was that really necessary to type?

Well you searched "their" website and spoke with a rep.
You didn't indicate a general search, so yeah, kind of necessary.
It wasn't an attack, but a suggestion. And he found something you didn't.
If you didn't like what he said, why stoop to the same level?
Maybe next time time "thanks for the info" and move on?

 

[iiipopes]

Thanks. Yes, I have three bass’s that are active but, I don’t want the Spector to be. The Warwick and ESP-LTD can do the job in that department. Generally, I prefer a passive bass and this swap will enable another but, out of the FSO category.

Have you thought about Bartolini CBC pickups? They have a wider range than the HZ's and aren't as mid pushed, and have good low end.

 

[BOOG]

Use diagram 6 or 10 (w/o switch) EMG 40HZ wiring instructions on EMG website.

Thank you.

 

[BOOG]

Well you searched "their" website and spoke with a rep.
You didn't indicate a general search, so yeah, kind of necessary.
It wasn't an attack, but a suggestion. And he found something you didn't.
If you didn't like what he said, why stoop to the same level?
Maybe next time time "thanks for the info" and move on?

 

[micguy]

Have you thought about Bartolini CBC pickups? They have a wider range than the HZ's and aren't as mid pushed, and have good low end.

The Hz's aren't mid pushed if you wire them in parallel.

 

[iiipopes]

The Hz's aren't mid pushed if you wire them in parallel.

Yes, but to my ears that goes too far the other way and they sound thin to me.

 

[micguy]

Yes, but to my ears that goes too far the other way and they sound thin to me.

By adding a loading capacitor, you can have any sound in between the two - somewhere in there, the porridge won't be too hot or too cold, it'll be just right.

 

[iiipopes]

By adding a loading capacitor, you can have any sound in between the two - somewhere in there, the porridge won't be too hot or too cold, it'll be just right.

Nah, I just get a different pickup, although the Washburn VCC control isn't too bad to thin out a guitar humbucker when you need a little lighter tone, especially in the neck position, but don't want to install something like a Bill Lawrence - Wilde Q-Filter. It will work on any standard 2-coil 4-lead passive humbucker pickup.

 

[micguy]

Nah, I just get a different pickup.

I haven’t met a pickup that I couldn’t make sound better (to my tastes) by loading it capacitively. The nice thing about capacitor experiments are that they’re predictable (you know which direction the sound is going to go), and they’re 40 cents a shot. A pickup swap is a hundred dollar shot in the dark.

 

[ThunderV]

I did this and the overall output seemed to suffer. The sound was ok......It was more me than anything.....I wanted to make my 5 string spector to sound more like my 1/4 pound loaded jazz bass.

 

[BOOG]

Nah, I just get a different pickup, although the Washburn VCC control isn't too bad to thin out a guitar humbucker when you need a little lighter tone, especially in the neck position, but don't want to install something like a Bill Lawrence - Wilde Q-Filter. It will work on any standard 2-coil 4-lead passive humbucker pickup.
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I haven’t seen a map like that since I was in the Marine Corps being told by our host nation guides, “only 500 meters”.

 

[BOOG]

Use diagram 6 or 10 (w/o switch) EMG 40HZ wiring instructions on EMG website.

Yes, diagram 10 is what I had in mind. Thank you for the confirmation.

I did this and the overall output seemed to suffer. The sound was ok......It was more me than anything.....I wanted to make my 5 string spector to sound more like my 1/4 pound loaded jazz bass.

Was the output acceptable or did it become anemic? My ignorant assumption is that since they are passive, they should operate without a preamp with similar results to other (JV52 or GEEZER P and PJ sets) passive pickups that I use.