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Envelope filter for bass. Users wants and needs

I don't play instruments with different outputs, mine are all passive. But I might get an active bass one day, and if all my other pedals have no change, but the envelope filter does, having a switchable buffer on the envelope with only a switch to flip would be much easier than having a whole nother pedal.
 
The Line 6 Otto filter has pretty much all of those apart from the expression and it has TP instead of HP.

that twin filter (tf, not tp) sounds like it would be utterly useless for bass.

line6 said:
Two band-pass filters move in opposite directions of each other. One band moves from high to low, the other from low to high. The center frequency of each band moves in response to the dynamics of your playing.

and is it just me, or are filter effects an area where digital stompboxes* still don't compete with old school lamps n stuf?

*I've heard very cool sounding digital filters in the synth world, but less so for pedals
 
For me, I want:

Ability to set the speed that the filter kicks in from really fast to quite slow and set the range of the filter.

Also, it would be cool to have one that can react differently for different pitches/volumes of note... so it might be really fast for high, quiet notes or slow for low, loud ones.

I Like to blend the effect in with a blend looper so I can keep some upper harmonic detail in there but most filters invert the signal so you get phase cancellation (you can ask for the WMD Fatman to be non-inverting which is cool). I think they should come with their own blend maybe even with an EQ for the un-effected signal so you can say which bit you want to keep.

An effects loop, maybe with a blend is a good idea (an effects loop can also be used to trigger the filter externally by using it as an input with the usual input for the triggering).

If I made pedals, I would make a number of filters, each meant for a separate thing, rather than one that tries to do it all (unless it is digital or has digital control).

Maybe a built in compressor that is good for taming some of the wild spikes that these effects would also be a good idea? (a three band compressor?).

Maybe a modular system could work? One for controlling the envelope and another for doing the filter and another for taming the signal.


There is an infinite amount of stuff you could want from a filter, but by the time it starts turning into a synth, you start to need the pre-sets of a synth.
 
Too many options.... can't narrow it down.

The only thing I'd like to see that I've never seen is a separate clean and effect level pot on the filter. A limiter might be nice, but I really like my sound to be as obnoxious as it wants to be and sometimes that means you gotta turn down a bit to let it fly. Range, sensitivity, the two volume knobs and you'd have a real nice simple filter pedal in my opinion. Maybe chuck a up/down switch and a rate knob to make it a little more complex.
 
Owned alot of filters. I feel the original Mutron III has got the sound..but I need one that is 1.) Smaller box
2.) Dependable
3.) True bypass i.e the volume boost
4.) Standard power connectors

What would true bypass have to do with the volume boost? :confused:
 
I would something like the DOD FX25 filter but with a sidechain input, also a CV input with a level control for the Cutoff control. A blend would be nice. Attack and Decay controls with threshold control and LED so you can know exactly when your bass is triggering it, a switch that goes between the Attack/Decay controls and traditional Bass Envelope.