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Epiphon Viola vs Rogue VB100

I recommend the Douglas viola bass from rondomusic.com mentioned earlier in the thread. I've owned the fretless and a friend of mine owns the fretted. For the money it's a fantastic bass. Probably doesn't compare too well to a vintage Hofner or Gibson EB1, but at that price you can't go wrong.

Additionally, I think I would recommend some Labella Hofner flats for pretty much any violin bass. It's a breathtaking combination.
 
Isn't that amazing!! I read something like that a while back, but, I have to believe that his techs can do better than that! I think I'm gonna apply for a new job!!

The only thing really different about the viola is, no pickup switches, a volume control for each pickup and a master tone control.


HDomazet What country are you from?
 
mellowgerman

I just looked at the Douglas at Rondo. The price is great and the head stock while not as much like the Hofner, is closer than the Epi. On top of that, it seems like there's always a Hofner CT switch plate up for sale on ebay, and they're reasonable. That's an easy switch.

Once again I'd bet money that that bass is made in the same place as the Epi, Rogue, and the Jay Turser. All of them private labeled!
 
Rogue, Jay Turser, Douglas, Epiphones, etc.....
Somehow they all look the same.
Gives you that feeling that maybe they were done by the same company in Asia.

I really agree with you...

I have had a Viola for almost 13 years, an "Eagle" knock off for 6... and they share a lot of things, even the tailpiece and the pickups were identical (the viola are chromes and the eagle were painted black) I even interchanged pickups just for the look... ;)

Any knockoff is the same, with just little differences to avoid copyright problems I think.

So you just have to pick the one you like the most... that would be all right.

If you want a more hofner alike bass... choose the Hofner Ignition, the same good bass as their cousins but with the Hofner badge at the headstock.

cheers!

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The eagle has the viola's pickups and the viola the eagle's... they are exactly the same... in this picture the eagle has a Hofner tailpiece... now is back to factory specks.
In the picture my new HCT... really great bass... I think you should save a little more and have one...
 
I recently read an article about how mcartneys bass has had the intonation out of whack since the 60s.He approximated the sounds he wanted.you'd think with millions of dollars he could get a decent setup.

He did got it in tune one time at Mandolin Brothers in New York and spent some of his $$$ for it. (This was around the time the Epiphone Viola came out, I have a picture of it while getting repaired at the place but it won't upload. Anyway here's the story from Mandolin Brothers.

"The need for intense security at Mandolin Brothers becomes quite apparent based on the extreme value of their merchandise and instruments in for repair. One of the most compelling examples of this revolves around Sir Paul McCartney’s prized Hofner Violin Bass, now commonly known as a Beatle Bass.

McCartney had a problem with his legendary bass. After interviewing five international repair shops, Mandolin Brothers was selected as the shop best suited to repair the multi-million dollar instrument. McCartney’s head equipment technician brought the bass to New York in its own seat on the Concorde, and stayed with it in the shop, eight hours a day, during the time it was in the shop’s care.

McCartney is later quoted as saying, “They (Mandolin Brothers) put it in tune for the first time in its life.”

Paul's head equipment tech was John Hammel.
 
I reduced the picture size, here's Paul's bass being repaired at Mandolin Brothers by Flip Scipio, chief tech at the time. He probably had to work around that song setlist taped to the body while doing the repairs.
 

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Epiphone didn't make the first violin shaped bass, it was Gibson. The model was the original EB1 before the SG body style came out and made from 53-58. It included an endpin to allow players to use the bass vertically. The idea was that it would make an easier transition for upright players.
It was phased out when the EB2 came around and was reissued in the late 60s.
Epiphone did their own reissue, complete with endpin, in the late 90s, early 2000s if I remember correctly.

This isn't me in the pic by the way. Thank google image search

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Thanks for correcting me on that.
Since Epiphone and Gibson are both owned by the Chicago Music Company, I tend to assume that they are the same company.

I.e., they are, but they are not.
 
I'm not sure where things stand with you. I had and gigged a Rogue VB100 for years. Loved it and never had one issue with it. I don't know anything about the Epiphone though. That is always the problems in these threads. Many people may not have tried both. I would swear by the Rogue though. (Although, I will admit that I sold mine recently. It didn't fit my band needs anymore and I dislike having unused equipment or instruments sitting around collecting dust.)
 
I haven't played either, but I would tend to be more amenable to the Epiphone and would probably stay away from the Rogue, I've had good experience with Epi guitars, and a bad experience with a Rogue bass amp, so I'm a little biased.
 
Isn't that amazing!! I read something like that a while back, but, I have to believe that his techs can do better than that! I think I'm gonna apply for a new job!!

The only thing really different about the viola is, no pickup switches, a volume control for each pickup and a master tone control.


HDomazet What country are you from?

From Croatia.

Thank you all on your suggestion,but it seems that only Epiphone Viola is available in my country,so I'll go with that.
 
Thanks for correcting me on that.
Since Epiphone and Gibson are both owned by the Chicago Music Company, I tend to assume that they are the same company.

I.e., they are, but they are not.

Its an easy mistake!

Epiphone used to be a completely different company until they were purchased by Gibson in the late 50s. My guitar player owns a preGibson archtop and it is SWEET!:bassist:
 
I've had two Violas; the first was the more expensive ($469), but the new one at $300 is identical. It is a very nice bass and surprisingly versatile in sound. I use the round wound D'Addario medium scale, as I need more than the Macca thump, and it is a lot of fun. I found that strap-locks made it more unstable, and went with a nice Dunlop bass strap to cure the slight dive. I have also played the Icon/Ignition extensively, and they have their own voice. To me, the Viola felt less toy-like and more versatile. I also like the VVT controls over the switches.
 

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