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epiphone thunderbird - what to do about the neck dive???

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BenDecker

Sep 28, 2010
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I own a epiphone thunderbird and I am really pleased with the sound, but the neck dive makes it nearly unplayable for anything just a little little bit advanced.

What can I do about that?

I was thinking about repositioning the strap holders but I'm not sure, how to position them for better balance. Any help out there??:bassist:
 
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Yes to all the above: Move/modify the strap button, get a strap made with a more non-slip material, or change out the tuners to something like the Hipshot Ultra Lite vintage (with the large ears but small gears and housings).

I never really had to do any of the above with my Gibson T Bird. Even before I switched out the tuners to Ultra lites (as more of an upgrade than a preventative against neck dive), I just didn't notice it. I think it has a lot to do with personal style, how you wear your bass.
 
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NOT said:
If you hang your Thunderbird low, don't. I hang my thunderbird slightly below my waist, and rarely have a problem with dive.
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Sorry resurecting an old post but +1 to that, i hang it low and i dont have the problem. I have an inch wide leather belt strap (made with belts obvs. :) and it won't dive as much. i can feel the weight on my shoulder more but wtvr, not uncommon with a heavy bass.
 
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I have an epiphone thunderbird pro 4 I'm in the process of refinishing and I have a couple questions. First I see where everybody is putting the strap buttons on a bolt on neck , I have read in previous forums that the pro models could of come with the strap buttons in either location I have not seen this in person. Just wanna verify before I start. Drilling. Also should I drill the holes for new bridge before or after?
For pups I'm thinking about emg 35 dc at the bridge and cs at neck problem is the whole is bigger than the pickups. some people use 40 series but on ton the pro model that would go all the way through the neck thru body. opinions on this matter would be very helpful. Yes I have been researching it when I get a chance But since my wife had a stroke I haven't had much free time. thank you again for any opinions and or advice
 

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Pilgrim said:
Follow Tbird1958's recommendations. Aside from being a very sharp guy, he only plays T-birds and he knows what he's talking about.

And bottom line is that you'll never eliminate all the neck dive.
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Actually, I'd say that the strap button on a stalk all but eliminates dive. TBird1958's upper button is good too but will leave some dive. Adding the stalk at that point will pretty much eliminate it (especially with nice strap etc.).

YMMV, but my experience with buttons on back of neck or neck plate have been poor. The problem I have is the bass wants to tilt out away from your body! The button on the upper "horn" tends to hold it against you.

One idea I've never tried is the Steinberger thing which is a flat metal bracket that bolts on to the neck plate then goes to the left and forward with a strap button out on the end, which gives more leverage against the neck and the forward bend holds the bass against your body.
 
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Just to update this post with current information. I recently purchased a new Epiphone Thunderbird IV from Dawsons and the strap button was located on the neck plate, so I presume Epiphone had listened to your complaints and made the change in manufacture!
 

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