Double Bass EUB Shoulder Rest

[MaddAnthony_59]

I have a Framus Triumph, and the "Rest" is horrible. It pushes the bass too far away from the player, and puts the player at some strange angles of attack.

Has any other EUB players had a similar issue? If so, what did you do to solve it? I'm considering getting some round stock, and making a few in different lengths, and also thinking of attaching rest from a different brand. Any thoughts, comments, or suggestions would be appreciated. I'll post Pics of anything I fabricate. Could be good for a Laugh!

 

[Francois Blais]

Playing seated may help?

 

[DoubleMIDI]

When I need to play a bass at a jam session that is set too high for me I often put the endpin farther away from me and take the neck closer. Should be balanced that the bass doesn't fall itself to one or the other side of the shoulder. The height comes down that way and the shoulder pushes more against me to hold it in place.

I played on a new carbon fiber bass prototype from mezzo-forte on Musikmesse and found the polished and round surface at the shoulder slips away. So either an edge (like the top on an acoustic double bass) is needed or a grippy surface like the rubber tube I put around my Clevinger's metal rod body support. (Not my idea but I like it that way.)

On the other side a body support for the left (treble) side needs to be slippery, the rubber coating on the Stagg EUB is bad when you try to play in thumb position.

 

[Francois Blais]

Could you fit an Eminence rest?
You can order one from here: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
You can see what it looks like:

 

[VictorW126]

I have a Framus Triumph, and the "Rest" is horrible. It pushes the bass too far away from the player, and puts the player at some strange angles of attack.

Has any other EUB players had a similar issue? If so, what did you do to solve it? I'm considering getting some round stock, and making a few in different lengths, and also thinking of attaching rest from a different brand. Any thoughts, comments, or suggestions would be appreciated. I'll post Pics of anything I fabricate. Could be good for a Laugh!

I have the same problem on Triumph. I could not find a comfortable position. I made a round support in the form of a shoulder, but this did not solve the problem. I decided that it was better to play sitting, without any support at all.
If I played the bass rarely, then I was not comfortable. But when I played constantly - I no longer noticed any problems.
I think this is a feature of the instrument. A matter of habit and practice. You need to get used to it.

Triumph is not a convenient tool. It was developed in the 50s and was among the first. It can not be played with a bow, it has an uncomfortable shape, etc. But it's very beautiful. It's a bass for a collection, not for work.

 

[MaddAnthony_59]

Great Replies! I have played seated, and this works. But I am a "Live" Rock Bassist, and I really want to perform with this instrument. But considering how Awkward it feels in practice, I have not taken it on stage yet. The main problem seems to be that it wants to Roll from one side to the other. Once I discover how to make it feel stable, I will play this bass on stage.

I have developed a way to attach it to a Strap, to play like an electric bass, and can make the change one way or another in 4 beats or less, so a pause is all that's needed. (Pics!!!, I know...) Thanks!

 

[VictorW126]

Great Replies! I have played seated, and this works. But I am a "Live" Rock Bassist, and I really want to perform with this instrument. But considering how Awkward it feels in practice, I have not taken it on stage yet. The main problem seems to be that it wants to Roll from one side to the other.Thanks!

I propose to use the stand from the drum set following the example of Ergo-eub. It's easy to do and it will give great results. I always treated negatively the three-stands, but when I tried it I changed my mind.
I cant bass so that the stand rests on the floor with two paws and it allows me to feel free. The pose remains relaxed. At any time I can steadily put it on three paws.

It's not like setting with a double bass, but it's very suitable for EUB. My experience: Triumph, BSX and other eub on the endpin and Ergo on the stand.

I can not take a photo now, but I drew (sorry - a Paint) how you can do it.

 

[MaddAnthony_59]

That is Clever! I wonder if there is a way to pop it in and out of the stand quickly, as I love to play the bass on a Strap as well.

 

[MaddAnthony_59]

Some Pics!

 

[MaddAnthony_59]

 

[MaddAnthony_59]

 

[VictorW126]

Some Pics!
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Ooh !!! Very beautiful bass!

That is Clever! I wonder if there is a way to pop it in and out of the stand quickly, as I love to play the bass on a Strap as well.

I do not know what to say. There are ways to get rid of the stand fast, but that's not the point.
I think you have to decide who you are - a double bass player or a bass-guitarist. You can use the NS-Design for playing strep, because they are suitable for this. But Triumph in its structure copies a double bass and is not intended for use on a strap. It looks strange. IMHO

EUB is a double bass, not a bass guitar.

 

[Maple]

I used to gig and tour a lot with an EUB and an electric bass (doubling I think they call it now) in an alt folk/rock band.
This EUB originally came with a shoulder bout that tried to mimic a double bass - a big arch of plywood.
But the problem with EUB's is that their mass is concentrated down the middle (unlike a double bass with it's wide body) so it's really easy for the EUB to spin out from you while you're playing.

So I redesigned the support on mine so that it can't spin out. This one isn't adjustable. it just fits me but I made it from metal conduit, plywood and some bike handlebar end caps. pretty basic and still feels great for an EUB.

(pardon the dust in my shop)

 

[rllefebv]

I used to gig and tour a lot with an EUB and an electric bass (doubling I think they call it now) in an alt folk/rock band.
This EUB originally came with a shoulder bout that tried to mimic a double bass - a big arch of plywood.
But the problem with EUB's is that their mass is concentrated down the middle (unlike a double bass with it's wide body) so it's really easy for the EUB to spin out from you while you're playing.

So I redesigned the support on mine so that it can't spin out. This one isn't adjustable. it just fits me but I made it from metal conduit, plywood and some bike handlebar end caps. pretty basic and still feels great for an EUB.

(pardon the dust in my shop)
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GENIUS!!! Thanks for sharing. This will help me a great deal.

-robert

 

[Francois Blais]

Nice design!
What's this EUB, please?
Very nice stitched maple top! (at least that's what I think it is)

 

[Maple]

Thanks. Yes it's a Birdseye maple top.

The bass was one of a handful made by a bassist in Los Angeles back in the '90's
Randy Landas. It plays really well and sounds pretty good for an EUB though doesn't compare to the real deal.

 

[Michael Eisenman]

The main problem seems to be that it wants to Roll from one side to the other.

The [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] prevents rolling but lets you pivot the bass at will. I can use my Eminence with or without the waist extension. Perhaps you could fashion one of your own.