Everything PLL (Shumann, Broughton, Dimehead, ELTA, etc)

[jwr]

Am I the only one that dislikes PLL's? I like the square wave section and that's about it. The rest sounds like unusable butthole.

That being said, I'd still buy one and flip it.

 

[aetheriac]

Am I the only one that dislikes PLL's? I like the square wave section and that's about it. The rest sounds like unusable butthole.

That being said, I'd still buy one and flip it.

One of the first settings I randomly dialed in was super usable. Nice fuzz. I haven't been able to get back to it though...

 

[Mosfed]

I just listened to some more demos and realized that it's supposed to scare me...

 

[JonnyAngle]

Am I the only one that dislikes PLL's? I like the square wave section and that's about it. The rest sounds like unusable butthole.

That being said, I'd still buy one and flip it.

It works great when droning and slamming it into a reverb

Prob not great for your classic country band

 

[FretNoMore]

Sub'd ...

 

[JonnyAngle]

I'm pretty sure the ect was not doing anything. The loop track knob was on "vibrato". I had
Lots of help

 

[Feral Feline]

Am I the only one that dislikes PLL's? ...

You're prolly the only one in this thread.

For that transgression, you must commit Seppuku...

 

[Teijo K.]

I'd just like to point out that the Invalid Link Removed is indeed a PLL (Phase Locked Loop oscillator) circuit.

I'm gonna tackle this one before I attempt its big brother Schumann.


Schumann <—> NSHuman ...

Coincidence?

I didn't know about the Ray gun youth... It is on my list, so I am planning to do a variant of the pll after all.

 

[Feral Feline]

Teijo, I thought you'd already built the Raygun?!

I remember you speaking of it before in the Breeder thread, I think (well, where else? )

 

[Teijo K.]

Teijo, I thought you'd already built the Raygun?!

I remember you speaking of it before in the Breeder thread, I think (well, where else? )

I got distracted by something else.

 

[FretNoMore]

You're prolly the only one in this thread.

For that transgression, you must commit Seppuku...

AnalSynth huh ... maybe a better choice than the PLL for unusable butthole sounds.

 

[BIG97BEN]

So I go MIA for a few days, and the official PLL thread jumps off.
I LOVE my PLL. I've had a Broughton one for just shy of a year now. It makes amazing "scary" tones, and some great "usable" square wave sounds.

1.) The multiplier and divider switches don't seem to do anything. I assume if they are both to the left, it is the same as both to the right. If I have the switches facing inwards or outwards, I don't notice any difference. thoughts?
I'm assuming you mean the phase switches, and not the rotary switches. They flip the phase of the respective signal by 180 degrees. The phase switches for the most part won't make a difference, but you may occasionally find a warble or volume cutout at particular mult/div intervals, in which case the phase will help. It's more obvious when using headphones.

2.) The "Preamp" knob is an input signal booster/ reducer. With different basses, I don't notice much of a difference, but I'm sure drum machines, guitars, synths, etc this knob would be more useful. thoughts?
The preamp gives about 20dB of boost. It's most noticeable when mult/div levels are at minimum so you are only hearing the square wave. Put the trigger at a setting that is "always on" as opposed to gated. The Preamp will then act like a gain for a fuzz pedal. Again, it is subtle, but it seems this was designed for a plethora of signals, so having the boost on hand may be necessary for other sources that perhaps aren't so strong.

3.) "Waveshape" only affects the square wave signal.
False, it is on the output of the PLL, where all three signals have been mixed. It is a fixed passive filter, like a tone control on a passive bass. Again this is super noticeable on headphones, maybe not so much through an amp, as the cutoff frequency is a bit high.

4.) I had a ? on lagtime/ response but don't remember.


5.) The "Loop Speed" switch is critical for super fast and sputtery vs slow and rising/ falling.
Yes, this switches in three different capacitor values for the "release" of the PLL chip.

6.) For the "drone box" I use an expression pedal and find that it's pretty ho hum. I use a hotone bass press. Any other suggestions?
I find a 500k ohm or 1meg ohm potentiometer is ideal, either linear or reverse log. I made a post here on TB before on how to make the box. Bonus points for whoever finds it.

It's funny, after playing around with this for a year, this post still sheds light on some things I didn't understand.
My PLL:

I seem to remember that those settings made a cool sound, but it was a while ago so try at your own risk.

 

[Marial]

Upper limit is 20mA. Usually it's a little less though. The absolute maximum voltage is 15V, but there's no benefit at all going above 9V, and it's more risky.

20? Or 200?

 

[Marial]

So I go MIA for a few days, and the official PLL thread jumps off.
I LOVE my PLL. I've had a Broughton one for just shy of a year now. It makes amazing "scary" tones, and some great "usable" square wave sounds.

It's funny, after playing around with this for a year, this post still sheds light on some things I didn't understand.
My PLL:
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I seem to remember that those settings made a cool sound, but it was a while ago so try at your own risk.

While I like the sparkly dark orange finish on my Broughton PLL, yours looks fantastic. Is that a JA etch/finish?

 

[BIG97BEN]

While I like the sparkly dark orange finish on my Broughton PLL, yours looks fantastic. Is that a JA etch/finish?

Yes sir! Amazing stuff. I love how he set up the Puzzlebox wih the footswithc and LED in the sides. Worked out perfectly.

Now I want to get a drone box with a larger Puzzlebox etch on it.

 

[Marial]

Yes sir! Amazing stuff. I love how he set up the Puzzlebox wih the footswithc and LED in the sides. Worked out perfectly.

Now I want to get a drone box with a larger Puzzlebox etch on it.

Groovy! Johnny is definitely going to get some work from me down the road. I'm loathe to let things out of arms reach right now.

 

[BIG97BEN]

Groovy! Johnny is definitely going to get some work from me down the road. I'm loathe to let things out of arms reach right now.

That is definitely the hard part. Luckily he had the PLL with all the others, so I never lost any time with it.

 

[Marial]

 

[blindrabbit]

 

[Marial]