Extended Range Bass (Club??) Thread

[Ed Goode]

wow, he actually named the body style? that's a trip.

Actually, when the question about the body style cropped up earlier, my first thought was "John has a bass with that horn shape, but not a SC" .... never knew it had a name for the style, though .....

 

[spade2you]

i don't care about compensation, but credit would have been cool - i obviously contributed -something- of value since it's in use - i mean, it is based on the sidewinder body style, so it's not like i came up with the whole thing, just the upper horn. would be hawt to get some kind of credit for that though.

then again, the string gauges on the sit-made conklin strings are different from the sr2000 ones because i told him my gauges and how much better they work. no credit there either.

Ouch.

 

[john turner]

Ouch.

yeah, you'd think differently, considering my "investment" in conklin guitars heh.

eh, whaddya gonna do?

 

[RLK]

wow, he actually named the body style? that's a trip. Invalid Link Removed. he actually wasn't too keen on it to start with - he told me he thought it reminded him of a one of prince's guitars.

Yep, giving some kind of credit would be the right thing.
Either incorporating your name or initials, or putting “(Inspired by John Turner)” or something like that.
Maybe if you talked to (Bill?), they would realize the oversight.
I guess the point is there shouldn’t be a need to remind them.

With Bud Lecompte, if a customer only requests a variation from one of his standard body designs, he renames it with the customer’s Initials.
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I design the “BK7” from scratch, but it was heavily influenced by Bud’s “P4t”.
Still, he is always quick to give me credit (or maybe blame? ).
Bud even asked my permission to apply a variation of my unique preamp setup onto a different bass.
In my mind the idea isn’t that unique, and I have no legal claim, but it surely demonstrates his character!

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[john turner]

i also was the first one to have a conklin rack-mount unit that controlled the volume and pan of the piezos on each string of one of my basses. bill dickens eventually had a 7 made the same way. that was my idea too. heh. -shrug-. oh well, i love my basses, and i guess that's all that matters.

 

[TolerancEJ]

Well, we know the truth. I suppose that matters to some extent.

Btw, if there comes a time where this situation angers you to the point that you can no longer stand to look at a Conklin, you are free to send all of them to me. I can bear the burden for you.

 

[spade2you]

i also was the first one to have a conklin rack-mount unit that controlled the volume and pan of the piezos on each string of one of my basses. bill dickens eventually had a 7 made the same way. that was my idea too. heh. -shrug-. oh well, i love my basses, and i guess that's all that matters.

That sucks, man. A few of my small ideas like the integrated thumbrest on the Rob Allen were nicely credited to me. I'm not a paid endorsing artist, but there's always THAT pride. Any successful concepts were for the sole purpose of sharing with the bass community, but I'm legitimately surprised you weren't at least given the credit, which is a definite bummer.

 

[john turner]

Well, we know the truth. I suppose that matters to some extent.

Btw, if there comes a time where this situation angers you to the point that you can no longer stand to look at a Conklin, you are free to send all of them to me. I can bear the burden for you.

lol, i'll keep that in mind. heh.

 

[basssuperfreak]

mine's going to be more of a worker than a showman, so no fancy stuff. also didn't have the money to go for "the works". its a no-top satin-finished swamp ash body.

i find it insane that you think the standard zon electronics are not aggressive enough. is yours using jazz pickups or soaps?

Soaps!!! It sounds ok but I like a bit more aggressive tone It gets lost sometimes. Good jazz tone but I have to play another bass for the Metal,Funk etc. I have a friend that put an a regular bartolini pre amp in his and it really made a difference. not the ZP2 that is in it now. Dont get me wrong I like my Zons they are quality guitars.

 

[ixlramp]

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[BinkyBassist]

Is it too late to request a number?
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HK (HeKe-Vertrieb) 7-string fretted
(And yes, it's manufactured under the name of a lot of brands.)

 

[Ed Goode]

Never too late

#106 - BinkyBassist .... Welcome


Updated list:

000 - john turner (ERB Godfather)
001 - pointbass
002 - MTMTEX
003 - sei24bass
004 - madbassplaya
005 - BIG CHEETO
006 - Thunderitter
007 - embellisher
008 - JAUQO III-X (director of C#0 division)
009 - spade2you
010 - voodoobassist
011 - Pstewart
012 - Gothic (ERB Club Emeritus)
013 - tjclem (luthier discount )
014 - CraigG
015 - elros
016 - CrispyDelicious
017 - James Hart
018 - El-Bob
019 - Baird6869
020 - paulo silva
021 - Jon Busuttil
022 - Thunkinfunder
023 - uglybassplayer
024 - BillytheBassist (ERB Club Emeritus)
025 - Flintc
026 - ehque
027 - fullrangebass
028 - Mark Wilson
029 - Out of Toon
030 - Bryan R. Tyler
031 - Darkstrike
032 - jkdahlman
033 - Ben Lesser
034 - demolisher
035 - Ric5
036 - Brian7StringNY
037 - Fret18
038 - Honk'n Down-low
039 - NoobOnRoad
040 - GorillaSalsa
041 - King V
042 - 7string
043 - The Insane
044 - Lokire
045 - realbadgroove
046 - 6stringbassist
047 - Stealth
048 - Lo end PUNCH
049 - FissioN
050 - Lefty@best
051 - 82Daion
052 - RLK
053 - AlCaldwell11 (awesome player)
054 - ChiliPepper
055 - Bygde
056 - Krause
057 - Gard
058 - AndersonJ
059 - edbutler3
060 - Gawd
061 - eekmeg
062 - Steelpulz
063 - CrippleMrDanion
064 - 7StringBassist
065 - samt
066 - matthewfoote
067 - MistaMarko
068 - bThumper38
069 - Juneau
070 - Anthbass
071 - Boss Bass
072 - xjeremiahx
073 - Krause
074 - BSR6P-Bob
075 - bstringkyle
076 - Ziltoid
077 - Mudfuzz
078 - Triarii117
079 - Jonah
080 - Bassius
081 - doublebassdude
082 - Hyperfreak
083 - Gbassman815
084 - JOEP054
085 - Bassman7PM
086 - T. Alan Smith
087 - bassicmelodies
088 - Sandu
089 - zaubertuba
090 - Laklandlover
091 - pratbasses
092 - milkman-27
093 - TheKingOfPain
094 - giocomini
095 - glen9
096 - Mark Roberts
097 - SchecterLover
098 - that-guy
099 - Dooms
100 - ToleranceEJ
101 - Basssuperfreak
102 - Distant Cousin
103 - nlerohl
104 - dakpluto
105 - Bipslapper
106 - BinkyBassist
107 - bronzehydra
108 - Flaked Beans
109 - Triad
110 - reniwren
111 - nervous
112 - Bollenator
113 - bajerovaquero
114 - acedabone
115 - kevin newsham
116 - boyet
117 - Sebek-Ra89

 

[Bipslapper]

Never too late

#106 - BinkyBassist .... Welcome


Updated list:

000 - john turner (ERB Godfather)
001 - pointbass
002 - MTMTEX
003 - sei24bass
004 - madbassplaya
005 - BIG CHEETO
006 - Thunderitter
007 - embellisher
008 - JAUQO III-X (director of C#0 division)
009 - spade2you
010 - voodoobassist
011 - Pstewart
012 - Gothic (ERB Club Emeritus)
013 - tjclem (luthier discount )
014 - CraigG
015 - elros
016 - CrispyDelicious
017 - James Hart
018 - El-Bob
019 - Baird6869
020 - paulo silva
021 - Jon Busuttil
022 - Thunkinfunder
023 - uglybassplayer
024 - BillytheBassist (ERB Club Emeritus)
025 - Flintc
026 - ehque
027 - fullrangebass
028 - Mark Wilson
029 - Out of Toon
030 - Bryan R. Tyler
031 - Darkstrike
032 - jkdahlman
033 - Ben Lesser
034 - demolisher
035 - Ric5
036 - Brian7StringNY
037 - Fret18
038 - Honk'n Down-low
039 - NoobOnRoad
040 - GorillaSalsa
041 - King V
042 - 7string
043 - The Insane
044 - Lokire
045 - realbadgroove
046 - 6stringbassist
047 - Stealth
048 - Lo end PUNCH
049 - FissioN
050 - Lefty@best
051 - 82Daion
052 - RLK
053 - AlCaldwell11 (awesome player)
054 - ChiliPepper
055 - Bygde
056 - Krause
057 - Gard
058 - AndersonJ
059 - edbutler3
060 - Gawd
061 - eekmeg
062 - Steelpulz
063 - CrippleMrDanion
064 - 7StringBassist
065 - samt
066 - matthewfoote
067 - MistaMarko
068 - bThumper38
069 - Juneau
070 - Anthbass
071 - Boss Bass
072 - xjeremiahx
073 - Krause
074 - BSR6P-Bob
075 - bstringkyle
076 - Ziltoid
077 - Mudfuzz
078 - Triarii117
079 - Jonah
080 - Bassius
081 - doublebassdude
082 - Hyperfreak
083 - Gbassman815
084 - JOEP054
085 - Bassman7PM
086 - T. Alan Smith
087 - bassicmelodies
088 - Sandu
089 - zaubertuba
090 - Laklandlover
091 - pratbasses
092 - milkman-27
093 - TheKingOfPain
094 - giocomini
095 - glen9
096 - Mark Roberts
097 - SchecterLover
098 - that-guy
099 - Dooms
100 - ToleranceEJ
101 - Basssuperfreak
102 - Distant Cousin
103 - nlerohl
104 - dakpluto
105 - Bipslapper
106 - BinkyBassist

Thanks for the # Pointbass! Have a great weekend, y'all

 

[BinkyBassist]

A pleasure to join!

I'm not sure if I should open a new thread for this so...
Does anyone know a ..."cheap" luthier that will make me a 8-string (single course) fretless bass? I love Listerud and Jerzy Drozd's basses, but Jerzy's are way too expensive and I don't know the pricings for Listerud. My budget would be around 1500~1700 € (2100~2350 USD). If it's even cheaper, better. I'm not looking for a boutique high-end bass like Alembic, even Warwicks and MM are too expensive for me lol (I've thought about de-fretting a Galveston UB-8000, but I don't like lined fretless)

TIA.

 

[spade2you]

Perhaps a bare bones Stambaugh might be close to that price, but hard to say how cheap, yet playable, you can go. The neck really needs to be relatively thin, very rigid, and balanced. Sure, Krappy could probably make something fretless and with 8 strings, but not sure how much you'd enjoy it.

Also, if you're not aware, the unwound steel strings tend to have a very different sound and dynamic on a fretless. I'm not bashing the idea of an 8 string fretless, but I can't say that the unwound strings sound particularly good to me.

 

[BinkyBassist]

Perhaps a bare bones Stambaugh might be close to that price

I just checked it:
Bolt-on:
7 string- $2500.00
That's a bit off of my range

But hard to say how cheap, yet playable, you can go. The neck really needs to be relatively thin, very rigid, and balanced.

I know... I may have been lucky, my HK 7-string was just 390 € and I haven't noticed neckdive, neither it's too heavy (5'5 kgs, 12 pounds, and I am really thin and feeble!), so I can get accostumed to bad situations

Sure, Krappy could probably make something fretless and with 8 strings, but not sure how much you'd enjoy it.

I've thought about it, but the policy of Krappy is that they don't have warranty by any means. If it brokes, even if it's their fault, they don't care, so... also most of their instrument are ridicolously funny-looking.

Also, if you're not aware, the unwound steel strings tend to have a very different sound and dynamic on a fretless. I'm not bashing the idea of an 8 string fretless, but I can't say that the unwound strings sound particularly good to me.

My F string is plain unwound and it's not a problem, and Conklin makes a wound F string (roundwound, not flat, though), and the tuning would be from F# to F, not B to Bb.

I was thinking of something like this


Anyway, thanks very much for your help!

 

[spade2you]

As long as you're aware of the sound. It's just not for me.

Anyway, Stambaugh is a tad over your budget, but why not wait and save a bit so you can get something killer? I may be a little biased as a Stambaugh owner, but his basses are well worth the wait and price. The options may be a little bare bones, but he won't skimp on the quality, which most would to keep them affordable.

 

[BinkyBassist]

I don't save up a little more because I'm just a teenager, and in my zone, the economical situation is really f**ked-up. Therefore, my parents won't let me spend THAT MUCH in a bass, my plan was to work this summer cleaning pools with my brother, and he doesn't think I'll earn anything more.

But thanks, I guess I'll have to save up, Stembaughs look and sound really nice!

 

[spade2you]

When times are tough, blowing money on a bass or other luxury items is far from a good idea. As a teen, you have minimal income. When you're an adult, you have income but also bills. Regardless, there's always the chance of unexpected and big bills.

I'm not saying it's a bad idea for a teen to have such good gear, but realize that you may change your tastes a little or perhaps a lot. I'd say mine changed lot because I was a guitarist well before I picked up bass. If you told me my main basses would be boutique basses by companies I've never heard of, I would have been very surprised.

 

[BinkyBassist]

Totally understand your point, because of that, I always look for the cheapest option possible. I don't want a chunk of wood with 8 strings on it, but something "decent". I want to spend the least possible because my parents already do too much for me.

Even if you're not saying that, it's a bad idea I studied and played sax for five years (kinda forced to do it...) and now I'm sure ERB bass is my voice (I went straight from a 4 string to a 7, never played even a 5) and not any other instrument matches me (maybe bass clarinet, I've always liked it), but that's not an excuse to spend such amount of money in a "pleasure item". But I wouldn't have known before either! Two years before I started playing bass I didn't know the difference beetween a guitar and a bass. God, I believed Fieldy's clickety-click sound was their drumset!

Anyway, these are just conjetures, I may not earn any money, or anything. But I definitely get it. Anyway, I'm not the kind of guy that begins playing bass on a custom made Fender worth 4000 $, I wouldn't buy anything I'm not up to.