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Fearful 15/6 help

#22
LouieLouie16 said:
So I'm guessing there's a ton of options. The other thing I like is I can build these for the same price or cheaper than most name brand cabinets and actually like the sound. I'm just tired of lugging an 810 everywhere. I love the way it looks and sounds but I'm over it as far as practicality goes. Maybe I'll just build a bunch while I'm at it lol
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The 15/6 and 15/sub are light and fairly small so they are pretty easy to haul around , the stack in my post above would fit in my 06 Accord . They sound quite a bit different than an 810 cab though , more like what you would get out of a large front of house PA system . At one of the outdoor gigs we did last summer with a large PA system with all of us going through it the sound engineer who I know pretty well wanted me to cut back on my fEarful stacks volume so he could get a more even mix . He told me the sound out of my rig sounded just like the PA's sound with multiple cabs and good subs . If you like the sound of your amp/preamp through a DI or good monitors the fEarfuls would be a good pick . Another thing is whether you go 15/6 and 15/sub or a 15/6 and a 12/6 cube the sound will be the same .

All this talk of fEarfuls has me wondering if I should build another , they are nice !
 
#24
Blues Bass 2 said:
The 15/6 and 15/sub are light and fairly small so they are pretty easy to haul around , the stack in my post above would fit in my 06 Accord . They sound quite a bit different than an 810 cab though , more like what you would get out of a large front of house PA system . At one of the outdoor gigs we did last summer with a large PA system with all of us going through it the sound engineer who I know pretty well wanted me to cut back on my fEarful stacks volume so he could get a more even mix . He told me the sound out of my rig sounded just like the PA's sound with multiple cabs and good subs . If you like the sound of your amp/preamp through a DI or good monitors the fEarfuls would be a good pick . Another thing is whether you go 15/6 and 15/sub or a 15/6 and a 12/6 cube the sound will be the same .

All this talk of fEarfuls has me wondering if I should build another , they are nice !
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Your stack is sweet. The only reason I would go with a 12/6 and 15/6 personally is the versatility in volume. My band does a lot of outdoor gigs, but also plays in small to medium clubs as well. Being able to pick and choose, or bring both all the time just to have one as a back up is great.
 
#26
LouieLouie16 said:
Your stack is sweet. The only reason I would go with a 12/6 and 15/6 personally is the versatility in volume. My band does a lot of outdoor gigs, but also plays in small to medium clubs as well. Being able to pick and choose, or bring both all the time just to have one as a back up is great.
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Just food for thought, but after I built my 12/6 + 12sub my 15/6 went virtually untouched for many months. The 12/6 is so easy to use and gets plenty loud. I thought I'd never sell my 15/6, and I was hesitant as it was such a great cab. But I know I made the right decision. My 12/6 + 12sub does everything a rock band could need at reasonably loud volume. The versatility of just plopping the 12/6 in the front seat of my Civic makes it very attractive.
 
#27
I'd agree that the 12/6 is pretty capable on its own. However if your coming from an 810, you might be happier with a 15/6, it might well Meet your needs by itself. For an electric bass, you'd probably be fine without a tweeter.
One consideration is that the cost of parts for the 12/6 and 15/6 are close. The 18sound mid is a bit more for the 15/6, and you need more wood, but at the end of the day you're not gonna spend a lot more on the 15/6.
Depending on your skills and tools, you might consider a flat pack from Speakerhardware.com. Leland has a great product and includes everything you need including screws and glue.
Go for it, you won't regret it!
 
#28
I built a 15/6 first, then a 12/6, and then a 12Sub. The only time I use the 15/6 now is if I have a big outdoor concert to play without PA support (then it's the 15/6, 12Sub, and GK 1001RB). On almost everything else, it's the 12/6, 12Sub, and GK 700RB. For small gigs, the 12/6 excels. If I had it to do over again, I wouldn't mess with the 15/6.
 
#29
popgadget said:
I'd agree that the 12/6 is pretty capable on its own. However if your coming from an 810, you might be happier with a 15/6, it might well Meet your needs by itself. For an electric bass, you'd probably be fine without a tweeter.
One consideration is that the cost of parts for the 12/6 and 15/6 are close. The 18sound mid is a bit more for the 15/6, and you need more wood, but at the end of the day you're not gonna spend a lot more on the 15/6.
Depending on your skills and tools, you might consider a flat pack from Speakerhardware.com. Leland has a great product and includes everything you need including screws and glue.
Go for it, you won't regret it!
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I'm actually a union carpenter so building and cutting the cab isn't the issue its everything else lol, but my guitar players dad fixes and builds amplifiers as a hobby so he's gunna give me a hand with wiring it up so that shouldn't be a problem.

The only thing I'm worried about is our music is very bass driven(which is awesome of course) and we only have 1 guitar player so when he solos I need to fill up that sound even more, will the 2 12 cabs do that? I'm really going with the 15 for the volume and having the 12/6 on top when I need it for the added boost without it being too loud. Also the 12/6 at practice and the 15 for most shows is great for the moving of equipment. Does one have more bottom than the other or is it marginal?
 
#30
My understanding is that the 15/6 and 12/6 sound very similar, just one is about 3db louder than the other. In other words, one will not have more bottom than the other. That being said, I don't think you will be lacking in bottom with either.

I just finished a 12/6/1 cube about a month ago and I am building a second 12/6 cube without the tweeter, I just don't need it for what I play.

If I was coming from an 810 I would build a pair of 15/6 without tweeters or a 15/6 and 12/6 cube combo. Do keep in mind what Blues_Bass_2 said, they do not sound like an 810 at all. If you are married to that sound you should try a fEARful first before going to the work of building one.

Good luck!
 
#31
The 15/6 and 12/6 are voiced the same. The difference is in how loud they will get. They definitely do not sound like the Ampeg 810. They have far more bottom end and a flatter midrange.
It is easy to underestimate what a single 12/6 is capable of. My suggestion for a 15/6 was based on the impression that you needed to get loud.
 
#32
Don't miss that point about under estimating what the smaller cabs can do.

I've got about a dozen gigs on my 12/6 12 sub stack and I can say I'll never need bigger. I've never heard these cabs fart. Played a gig recently with only my 12/6 cause the guitarist had promised to keep it down, the promise failed (imagine that) and by the third set we were blasting Born To Be Wild at full war volume, the peak light on my STL900 blinking away steadily, and sure as hell - that little 12/6 was holding it's own against the ice-pick-volume guitar solo and totally drowning out the loud drummer. Thumping away, pant legs flapping, clear as a bell, no sign of stress whatsoever. Bliss.

I'm not saying it doesn't sound better with the sub in place, it sure does.... but it's just flat out amazing what that little 12/6 cab can do all on its own.

I'm also not saying a 12/6 is loud enough for YOUR band. Everything is relative and all that jazz... right?

What I love the most about the stack is I can still get em both to the car in one trip. One cab in each hand, no problem. For me the 12/6 12sub stack is the best of all worlds. I have everything I want:
seriously lightweight - one trip to the car
smallest (reasonably possible) stage footprint
tall enough to get the mid driver close enough to my head
studio monitor sound quality
capable of FAR more clean volume than I'll ever need.

Can't say it's louder than an 810 as I've never played through one....
 
#36
Downunderwonder said:
About time you showed up!

Iirc you used to run an 8x10, do 2x 12/6 punch equally?
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Depends on the 810. My Peavey 810TX was a beatly 810. Would beat out two 12/6/1's. Lined up with an 810e? The 12/6/1's are going to have way more bottom, but are going to be more balanced through the mids. So max SPL I think they win out, based on sub 100hz performance (Its easy to get loud through the mids so that isnt a worry for me).
 
#38
BurningSkies said:
You should build one of each. Just to do it.

I pretty much use my 15/6+15sub for everything. Coffee house to outdoor festival stage.
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+1

The reason I have the 12/6/1's is that we have been doing some small gigs. A single 12/6 would shock most with how loud they can get in a small package. Means I have a quick grab and go cab. Amp in a back back. Cab in one hand, bass in the other.
 
#39
Downunderwonder said:
If I was going down the fearful road it would be a pair of 12/6 no tweets.
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This is the road I went down several years ago...and haven't looked back. Small, scalable, good sounding.

Everyone's taste is different, but I find no need for anything above 5K with bass guitar.
The only time I missed having a high frequency section was the night I tried using one of them for electronic drums. (The cymbals sounded "dull".)
 

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