Fender Bassbreaker?

[dalkowski]

So I waltz into my local music store

No pics, no waltz.

A better name for the four string applications: Fender Dealbreaker?

Seriously, an awful product name by any measure.

 

[bobcruz]

Well I do apologize for mucking up your thread. A local marketing ad boy stepped in ....

The "ignore" function is your friend.

 

[Killed_by_Death]

I tried a couple of them today, of various wattage & I was thinking "You call that gain?!"

weak sauce...

 

[chadds]

Well I do apologize for mucking up your thread. A local marketing ad boy stepped in invoking the name "Leo Fender" like the man has had anything to do with his name on any product since 1965 from Fender. That man (Leo Fender) was one of the first to bring amplification to to modern instruments from his radio repair shop in the 1940's. Mis representing products of the past serves no good purpose especially when folks are still living that lived with equipment from those days owned and gigged them.

Yep! When we'd all but given up on Fender bass amps because they couldn't compete. Ampeg was crushing before the SVT came out. A 2x15 fliptop Ampeg or Oliver just embarrassed the Fender. Showmans could just barely be heard. OMG Sunn! Love it when people wax on when they weren't there. When vintage was new. When vintage was used gear to us. When '70s Fender instruments were dipped in poly and sounded like it and played poorly. When we weren't jealous we just went home with our cash and kept playing our used '50s and '60s basses. When a Sunburst '68 P was one year old. When a salesman hands me an all maple Ric with Rotos, plugs it into a Marshall Super Bass 100 two 4x12 stack and then says. "This may be an Edsel." When you knew what that meant.

 

[Bill Whitehurst]

OK, I get what they meant to imply with that name.
I do, really.
Still a terrible name.
Sounds like a cool guitar amp, though.

If you want all tube, marginal by todays standards power
in a vintagey bass amp, then find a vintge tube bass amp.
Fender, Ampeg, Sunn, Traynor,
pick your prefered flavor.
They are still out there and still sound like they did then.

 

[Spectrum]

The problem with the name "Bass Breaker" is that it's an in-joke that only people up on their amp history would understand.

Knuckleheads like me who don't know anything about that history and just want to check out a new amp are confused. Why would I want to plug my bass into something that says it breaks basses?

 

[Killed_by_Death]

When I think about Fender timbre from a guitar amp, I want Deluxe Reverb or Tweed Deluxe, not weak Bassman

 

[mbell75]

The problem with the name "Bass Breaker" is that it's an in-joke that only people up on their amp history would understand.

Knuckleheads like me who don't know anything about that history and just want to check out a new amp are confused. Why would I want to plug my bass into something that says it breaks basses?

Huh? Its not called a "Bass Breaker", its a Bassbreaker. Its called a Bassbreaker because its a slightly modified '59 Bassman circuit with 2xEL34s. Its a cross between a Bassman and a Bluesbreaker, hence the name Bassbreaker. Its technically a '67-'68 Black Flag JTM50.

 

[Spectrum]

Huh? Its not called a "Bass Breaker", its a Bassbreaker. Its called a Bassbreaker because its a slightly modified '59 Bassman circuit with 2xEL34s. Its a cross between a Bassman and a Bluesbreaker, hence the name Bassbreaker. Its technically a '67-'68 Black Flag JTM50.

I don't care because it's not a bass amp anyway, and also this happened two years ago and I forgot about this thread, so I also don't care some more.

 

[mbell75]

I don't care because it's not a bass amp anyway, and also this happened two years ago and I forgot about this thread, so I also don't care some more.

You cared enough to reply

 

[Killed_by_Death]

I pass by these on the way to the loo at the local Fender dealer & they even smell bad

 

[FilTurd]

I don't care because it's not a bass amp anyway, and also this happened two years ago and I forgot about this thread, so I also don't care some more.

Perfect

 

[mbell75]

I pass by these on the way to the loo at the local Fender dealer & they even smell bad

Best amps Fender has made in decades and amps Marshall SHOULD have been making. Love my 45!

 

[Killed_by_Death]

The gain was weak on the ones I tried, really weak.

 

[mbell75]

The gain was weak on the one I tried, really weak.

Which one? Im assuming the 007 or the 15? Those are the only two with gain controls. The natural overdrive sound when pushed on my 45 is awesome but you have to know what they are made for. They sound like old school Marshalls and Voxs, they are not high gain amps at all.

 

[Killed_by_Death]

It wouldn't haven't mattered if they all sound like a Vox

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only bass players who likes high gain.

Pinch harmonics are almost impossible on a low gain amp.

 

[mbell75]

It wouldn't haven't mattered if they all sound like a Vox

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only bass players who likes high gain.

Pinch harmonics are almost impossible on a low gain amp.

Well, they are guitar amps, not bass amps. So theres that lol

 

[Killed_by_Death]

I'd especially expect to be able to pull off pinch harmonics on a guitar amp, even more so than a bass amp.

Rumbles do just fine for pinch harmonics...

 

[mbell75]

I'd especially expect to be able to pull off pinch harmonics on a guitar amp, even more so than a bass amp.

Rumbles does just fine for pinch harmonics...

Ummm yea, a SS Rumble made for bass guitars and an EL34 equipped Bassbreaker made for guitars are two very different amps. Gain is not the Bassbreaker's thing, not what its made for. I dont play bass anymore but Id imagine an amp with a '59 Bassman circuit like the Bassbreaker 45 would destroy a Rumble no matter what was plugged into it. Again, you played the 7 or 15 watt version, not anywhere close to the 45. Mine has thump and bottom end for days and as a former bass player, thats exactly what I want in a guitar amp unlike most guitarists. Only guitar amp Ive played that comes close to the bottom end of my 45 is the Orange Rockerverb 100 with the 2x12 Orange closed back cab. A bass would probably sound fantastic thru one of those with the Orange 4x12 cab.

 

[Killed_by_Death]

"Gain is not the Bassbreaker's thing"

We're done here. I don't like it, and you love it.
Not enough gain for pinch harmonics is a dealbreaker to me.
(see what I did there?, dealbreaker, bassbreaker)


"a '59 Bassman circuit like the Bassbreaker 45 would destroy a Rumble"

More than a couple people told me that same thing about a $1,000+ cabinet.
So, I bought one. I didn't agree & I'm still using a Rumble.

If you love the amp, I'm happy for you.
I've already explained that I don't & I have tried more than one.

I wish now I hadn't responded. I posted that the gain is weak & then you confirmed that in three separate posts

FWIW, I like bottom end when I play guitar as well, and the Rumble suits me for that.