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Fender Flats

I got a set of 9050M for my MIM Classic P bass a while ago while experimenting with a bunch of strings for it. For whatever reason, I was really turned off by the sound when I first strung them on and instantly took them off. I just wasn't hearing the growl and life I was expecting out of them. Eventually landed on LaBella 760FLs as my go-to for that bass and never looked back.

BUT... one of the LaBella strings snapped on me last week (user error...) so I put the Fenders back on (kept them tucked away as a back-up) and I have to say I'm enjoying the tone and feel. Not really sure why they didn't click with me the first time and why I like them now. I still have a replacement set of 760FLs o nthe way, but I think I'll keep the Fenders on for a bit and enjoy them a while longer.

Isn't the tension difference between the 9050M and the 760FL enormous?
 
Didn't bother me. The next gauge up on the LeBellas are too tight for my taste so prefer the lighter ones. The Fenders felt fine. (I'm back to the 760FLs now... just can't live without them)

You mean the 760FS are too tight? But if so, then aren't the 9050M super too tight? By the way, I have the 760FS and find them quite agreeable in terms of tightness and tension. What I don't like about them is that the E and A sound fat and thumpy while the D and G don't.
 
You mean the 760FS are too tight? But if so, then aren't the 9050M super too tight? By the way, I have the 760FS and find them quite agreeable in terms of tightness and tension. What I don't like about them is that the E and A sound fat and thumpy while the D and G don't.

It was the 760M (.55-.110) that I had on before, sorry. Didn't remember there was another set in between. Don't think I've ever tried the 760FS.
 
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Unfortunately the GHS Pflats are way too long for a standard Pbass. The E string may not break going round the post but it looks wrong.

This is the one thing that kept me from trying them for a long time. I did eventually get over my OCD, though. ;)

GHS PF E 220823.jpg
 
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I used to let visual appearance dictate my string choices; now it's all about how they sound. It doesn't sound like the E is in any pain as my P bass is happily purring with chocolate-y smoothness.

I'm sure it does!

By the way, may I ask once more an age old question: How would you compare, in one phrase (or perhaps more :)) the Fender 9050s, the LaBella DTFs, and the GHS Ps? Also, does gauge play a significant role in the character/tone of a given set of the aforementioned flats?
 
How would you compare, in one phrase (or perhaps more :)) the Fender 9050s, the LaBella DTFs, and the GHS Ps? Also, does gauge play a significant role in the character/tone of a given set of the aforementioned flats?

I've tried Fender 9050L (100E) and 9050CL (105E), LaBella 760FL (43-104) and GHS P Flats 45-95 on my P bass.

Fender = Full-bodied punch with some grindy mids. This "grindy mids" worked great on my Jazz bass, but a bit too much on my P. The 100E sounded cleaner and clearer on my P, while the 105E sounded better (and felt more balanced) on the J.

LaBella = Classic "thump" with a hi-mid metallic edge. The 104E sounded a bit muddy down low and too boomy up the neck on my P. These were not a good match on my J as they seemed to suck the J-bass character out of my J bass.

GHS = Warmer and "woodier" than the other two with a focused punch. The 95E is cleaner than the other two (specifically on my P) with excellent definition without ever sounding muddy or boomy. Haven't had a chance to try them on my J.

The gauge selection DOES make a difference depending on the bass. My P bass has always sounded better with a smaller E (.095/.100), while my J seemed to do better with a "balanced tension" set, such as 45-60-80-105 (Fender 9050CL).
 
I've tried Fender 9050L (100E) and 9050CL (105E), LaBella 760FL (43-104) and GHS P Flats 45-95 on my P bass.

Fender = Full-bodied punch with some grindy mids. This "grindy mids" worked great on my Jazz bass, but a bit too much on my P. The 100E sounded cleaner and clearer on my P, while the 105E sounded better (and felt more balanced) on the J.

LaBella = Classic "thump" with a hi-mid metallic edge. The 104E sounded a bit muddy down low and too boomy up the neck on my P. These were not a good match on my J as they seemed to suck the J-bass character out of my J bass.

GHS = Warmer and "woodier" than the other two with a focused punch. The 95E is cleaner than the other two (specifically on my P) with excellent definition without ever sounding muddy or boomy. Haven't had a chance to try them on my J.

The gauge selection DOES make a difference depending on the bass. My P bass has always sounded better with a smaller E (.095/.100), while my J seemed to do better with a "balanced tension" set, such as 45-60-80-105 (Fender 9050CL).

Yes, on my Pbass it's this metallic edge of the D and G LaBella (760FS) strings I want to get rid of. E and A are mostly alright although perhaps a bit too much on the puffy-thumpy side.

The Fender 9050M could perhaps be an alternative but then I'll have to fight those grindy mids...*

Have read good things about the Galli Jazz flats (45-105). Perhaps I should try them. Or would the 45-105 GHS Ps fit the bill?

* Apropos Fender flats, I had a set in the past, don't remember which one, probably the 9050L. I didn't give them enough time and went on with my flats quest. But then videos like the one below make me reconsider them, in this case the 9050M set. They sound good on this Squire P - full, punchy and not puffy. Don't hear much grind, I think. Of course, Mr. Price can make his setup groove nicely.

 
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9050s are great strings. Any chance of disclosing tension numbers (especially of the 9050M set)?
with apologies, that project was so long ago that I can't remember. As well, I wasn't really concerned with tension as I am not today on any strings I play. I'm always more focused on flexibility. My goal with the flats was to make them quite flexible as there were plenty of stiff, flat wound strings in the market.
 
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I'm sure it does!

By the way, may I ask once more an age old question: How would you compare, in one phrase (or perhaps more :)) the Fender 9050s, the LaBella DTFs, and the GHS Ps? Also, does gauge play a significant role in the character/tone of a given set of the aforementioned flats?

Been use GHS flat 3050 on 51 pbass (and spil cool 60 pbass) but never impress me at all until I strung a set of Labella LTF4A , sound just creamy sweet to my ears than dry voicing GHS flat. All string has balance tone and balance stiffness, no such unacceptable high tension and ball lacking G string which happened on GHS flat. Meanwhile, the ltf4a break in period also shorter than GHS flat even 760fl. I want healthy voice E string and full sounding G string without unbalanced string to string stiffness. Of cause , comfort fretting and plucking feel too. Hopehelp.



Off topic.

I rarely play with pick, here is Ti flat with pick. Jus for tonewise reference between Ti Vs ltf4a.
 
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Been use GHS flat 3050 on 51 pbass (and spil cool 60 pbass) but never impress me at all until I strung a set of Labella LTF4A , sound just creamy sweet to my ears than dry voicing GHS flat. All string has balance tone and balance stiffness, no such unacceptable high tension and ball lacking G string which happened on GHS flat. Meanwhile, the ltf4a break in period also shorter than GHS flat even 760fl. I want healthy voice E string and full sounding G string without unbalanced string to string stiffness. Of cause , comfort fretting and plucking feel too. Hopehelp.



Off topic.

I rarely play with pick, here is Ti flat with pick. Jus for tonewise reference between Ti Vs ltf4a.


Thanks for posting the tracks. The LTF4A sound good, full and punchy!
 
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