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Fender James Jamerson 62 Precision - limited run?

Basically I had bought from them in the past and kept a few, returned a few. So because of that they threatened me with "we can't do business with someone like that" but let me purchase this one as a final deal with no return. So it is what it is.
LOL They "fired the customer"!? How many times did you return one?

MF would never do that, their very existence is based on returned items! C'mon CME, get with the program! :woot:
 
Speaking of "firing the customer"...

GC should fire me and put me outta my misery. I've bought 9 basses off their used site in the past 10-12 years. Returned every one of them for having serious undisclosed problems.

Dear GC,

Please fire this customer (me) once and for all so I won't (can't) be tempted to waste time bargain hunting on your site anymore.

Sincerely,

Anon gear junky.
 
Basically I had bought from them in the past and kept a few, returned a few. So because of that they threatened me with "we can't do business with someone like that" but let me purchase this one as a final deal with no return. So it is what it is.
They probably can't cover the costs like guitar center who has more money and junk guitars than God himself AND a staggering 45 day return policy. You're talking about likely a mom and pop brick and mortar single location store that if there were 10 of you just "borrowing" basses for a week and returning them could probably go out of business or get their balance sheets destroyed.

Speaking of GC, I mean..45 days man.....you could take a loan out on a 1960 Jazz bass and go tour the world for a month and then come back and return it (maybe even swap some parts out from it to your other basses) and the 21 year old counter associate would never know. (I would never, but it crossed my mind how easy it would be to do OMG). They could care less about returning stuff, and if one store declines it...just go to the next GC a couple cities over and they will oblige you.
 
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Speaking of "firing the customer"...

GC should fire me and put me outta my misery. I've bought 9 basses off their used site in the past 10-12 years. Returned every one of them for having serious undisclosed problems.

Dear GC,

Please fire this customer (me) once and for all so I won't (can't) be tempted to waste time bargain hunting on your site anymore.

Sincerely,

Anon gear junky.
Dang you're picky. I only returned 1, and it was an issue of "I found something better I liked elsewhere online and since I am at day 42 I can still return this for what I paid for it". They have some amazing used basses, likely to need setups..but still, nothing I can't live with beyond that.
 

Dang you're picky. I only returned 1, and it was an issue of "I found something better I liked elsewhere online and since I am at day 42 I can still return this for what I paid for it". They have some amazing used basses, likely to need setups..but still, nothing I can't live with beyond that.

I'm really not. Actually I'm pretty tolerant for cosmetic issues, worn frets, fret sprout, poorly cut nut slots, dings, scratchy pots, and little things that I can easily fix myself.

I draw the line at basses with undisclosed real problems like frozen truss rods, warped necks, cracked bodies or necks, dead preamps, gutted elecs, busted tuners, bowed necks with max'd out rods, missing parts, stripped finishes, or anything that would require me to pay someone else to have fixed.

I hear stories about others finding hidden gems at GC, pawn shops, flea markets, etc. I've dug up plenty of gems in other places, just not from those.

I almost scored a pretty sweet deal at a GC store one day, though. I happened to be there returning one of their online used basses with a frozen rod. They had a really nice old Yamaha 5 string on the used bass rack. One of the upper-tier deluxe models (I forget which one). Even though it had a lot of play wear, it was a helluva bass for $450. Hesitated, passed on it. Next day I went back for it, but it was gone. That's my only GC "sweet deal story", but to be fair I rarely set foot in a GC. Cheers.
 
but to be fair I rarely set foot in a GC
Same, now just to not look at their damn website with all those cool used basses. Also, another reason is the luthiery pricing...$140 for a truss rod adjustment and string height set. After 4 of those consecutively on different guitars, they still refused to give me a loyal customer discount..even $40 off since I spent so much money already. That's why I don't mind almost abusing their return policy at this point.
 
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Yeah I'm kinda surprised the JJ only comes with a COA paper. Seems like it oughta have a few more commemorative details, like a special neck plate, or at least a special decal on the headstock rear. Some special case candy goodies might be nice too, for that price.

JJ went thru multiple P basses so there had to be compromises that deviated from an exact replica of the famous Funk Machine, I guess. I can imagine much discussion at Fender about how, exactly, can they issue a plausible JJ sig. I bet if they scrawled "FUNK" into it, we'd hear from the TB Signature Bass Haters Appreciation Society. :laugh:


Have to admit, I've generally no interest in signature models (irrespective of brand), and I don't pay attention to what most brands are doing (with the possible exception of Music Man, and Rickenbacker), so I've genuinely no idea if Fender has ever done a signature model for a previously deceased artist.

Has that happened before?
 
Have to admit, I've generally no interest in signature models (irrespective of brand), and I don't pay attention to what most brands are doing (with the possible exception of Music Man, and Rickenbacker), so I've genuinely no idea if Fender has ever done a signature model for a previously deceased artist.

Has that happened before?
The Jaco model, certainly.
 
They should NOT!
The only thing they should name it is "what took so long". He's been dead since 1983? Why did it take 43 years for this? He's probably rolling in his grave if anything due to the fact Fender should have created this bass way before he died, and once he died..it should have come out in 1984. But I guess all those "62' re-issues" over the years will suffice. To be fair, I think the first signature production bass was 93' for Stu Hamm..
 
Same, now just to not look at their damn website with all those cool used basses. Also, another reason is the luthiery pricing...$140 for a truss rod adjustment and string height set. After 4 of those consecutively on different guitars, they still refused to give me a loyal customer discount..even $40 off since I spent so much money already. That's why I don't mind almost abusing their return policy at this point.
Ever used bass I see on the guitar center website looks like it went on tour without a case
 
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Ever used bass I see on the guitar center website looks like it went on tour without a case
Best one was on Craigslist out here in LA....Jaco signature bass he bought from Norm's Rare Guitars with a "letter of authenticity" that says it was owned by Jason Scheff of Chicago...who quote...relic'd it himself with a belt sander. lol...yeah right pal!
 
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Here's the thing. In the world we live in today, nothing is going to be perfect because somewhere around covid people just stopped giving a poopie, and the world turned a lot colder for the worse. It sucks. However, we need to adapt, you need to seperate critical issues vs. fixable, and at least have some skills to make minor adjustments on a bass if you want things to be a lot easier on yourself.

Simply having to adjust a neck, and have it quickly FIX THE ISSUE in 30 seconds, would be a delight to me. I would never think twice if the rest of the bass was perfect.

For instance, let's say you get a bass that is PERFECT, but maybe the nut is cut too high. Well, this is fixable. My tech files nuts for $20. So you can take an hour, pay $20 and have a perfect bass with a little calm planning.

Both FCS basses I've owned which both cost about $4K had horrifically grindy vintage style tuners. The rest was perfect. So, I spend $100 and installed Gotoh, making the bass BETTER than before, while also lowering the weight and fixing the neck dive. I don't mind such a thing because I already KNOW to expect such things. Is it right? Hell no, but with little effort I know have perfect bass. A return, hunting for another bass with other possible unknown issues is much more inconvenient. You could return that bass and then get a new one that has a finish problem, wrong weight, weird burst pattern, etc., misaligned bridge, etc., sh*t you can't fix.

If you get a bass with critical issues like above yes, RETURN immediately.

Fender QC is absolute crap now, no question about it. Especially MIM and MIA. So, if you want a good Fender, and your picky (I am) be prepared to have some patience and spend some time to get it all right. Including the possibility of multiple returns. Once you get it right, keep it!!!

Best way to go is MIJ if they have something you like. They always come out close to perfect.
For $3000 I shouldn't have to file the nut. I shouldn't have to do anything other than tune it and set it up to my liking. Companies get away with this BS only because we let them so let's not do that anymore.

This is why I buy much cheaper instruments, do the non-critical tweaks and then bitch about QC on forums. And I only do that becaue I know how to fix those issues and returning instruments I bought online is too much of a hassle.
But I have returned MIMs that came with critical issues, of course (warped necks, botched electronics, bent tuners).
 
Have to admit, I've generally no interest in signature models (irrespective of brand), and I don't pay attention to what most brands are doing (with the possible exception of Music Man, and Rickenbacker), so I've genuinely no idea if Fender has ever done a signature model for a previously deceased artist.

Has that happened before?
The Bass Centre in Los Angeles (1986-1996) commissioned The Fender Custom Shop to create both The James Jamerson Tribute Bass and The Jaco Pastorius Signature Bass in 1990 (Jamerson basses were delivered beginning in 1990, and Jaco basses beginning in 1991.) Both projects were done with the cooperation with the Jamerson Family and Jaco's Estate, respectively; James Jamerson, Jr., was involved in the JJ bass, and Kevin Kaufman (Jaco's former bass tech) was involved in the creation of the Jaco bass. The intention was for 100 of each to be created, however, there were no more than 50 of each made.

There are several articles her on TB where both basses are discussed.
The only thing they should name it is "what took so long". He's been dead since 1983? Why did it take 43 years for this? He's probably rolling in his grave if anything due to the fact Fender should have created this bass way before he died, and once he died..it should have come out in 1984. But I guess all those "62' re-issues" over the years will suffice. To be fair, I think the first signature production bass was 93' for Stu Hamm..
The Stu Hamm Urge Bass was the first "production" signature bass (not a limited production instrument) offered by Fender, but was Fender's 3rd signature bass historically speaking.
Best one was on Craigslist out here in LA....Jaco signature bass he bought from Norm's Rare Guitars with a "letter of authenticity" that says it was owned by Jason Scheff of Chicago...who quote...relic'd it himself with a belt sander. lol...yeah right pal!
I don't know about the relicing, but Jason Scheff was one of many celebrity bassists who purchased Jaco and/or Jamerson basses at the time. ;)