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Fender MIM Jazz Pickups

I’ve tried all manner of replacement pickups and drop in preamps in MIM J basses and i’ve come down to a set of Dimarzio Area J pickups in one bass for country and Americana and such, and another bass with a set of Dimarzio Model J pickups for when i need to summon the thunder god for blues and RR. Both basses have stock 250K CTS solid shaff pots, but i did wind up with different tone caps. I’m sorry to say i can’t remember what those cap values are, but they are plain old ceramic disk caps. I tried several boutique caps, orange drop, Russian oil in foil, etc, and none of them sounded better than the plain old round brown caps. Unless you just prefer active basses, give some Dimarzio stacked humbuckers a spin, you might be surprised at what you hear.

I wholeheartedly agree, having tried tye model J and ultra jazz I believe it was. Both were awesome but a different flavour. They’re not stacked though. They’re side by sides.

Get the cream ones!
 
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Noticed the pickups hum under fluorescent light.

They're single coils. There are two sources of extraneous rises in basses - magnetic hum, and electrostatic hum/buzz. Single coils pickups can be shielded against electrostatic noise, but they can not be shielded against electromagnetic hum - the only defense there is to turn up both pickups, and be far enough away from the source the the field is the same in both pickups, then they'll cancel. With unequal volumes of the pickups, they'll hum if you're in a magnetic field.

You can really only make a quiet bass with hum cancelling pickups and electrostatic shielding. If you don't do both, it'll make noise somewhere.

I'm a fan of Dimarzio Model J's. They don't sound like Fender pickups (they're darker), which I like. If you want hum cancelling J pickups that do sound like Fender pickups, their Area J's are the ticket.
 
They're single coils. There are two sources of extraneous rises in basses - magnetic hum, and electrostatic hum/buzz. Single coils pickups can be shielded against electrostatic noise, but they can not be shielded against electromagnetic hum - the only defense there is to turn up both pickups, and be far enough away from the source the the field is the same in both pickups, then they'll cancel. With unequal volumes of the pickups, they'll hum if you're in a magnetic field.

You can really only make a quiet bass with hum cancelling pickups and electrostatic shielding. If you don't do both, it'll make noise somewhere.

I'm a fan of Dimarzio Model J's. They don't sound like Fender pickups (they're darker), which I like. If you want hum cancelling J pickups that do sound like Fender pickups, their Area J's are the ticket.

I agree. They don’t sound like single coils but they do have their own great sound. I had one bass with a mismatched set: bridge was NJS4 Nordstand and neck was dimarzio. Sounded killer especially with both pickups full. My theory is there can be some magic when you try different things out.
 
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I play all of my other basses bridge only and never had a hum. Maybe shielding would be a good start.

I have a standalone Fishman Platinum Pro Eq which I used for my upright. May break that out.
 
Assuming the pups are the same size and I go DiMazio ultras,

1) I need to order 2 neck pups to avoid routing

2) Said pups will be hum free?

… not sure what I am missing here, but I thought we settled the issue of same size pups back in post #21 … this is NOT a MIM Standard, it would be a MIM Classic Series 60's Jazz, and they never used the same size pups … the part #'s I gave you would be for conventional size pickups, neck longer than bridge … ;)

… about the only thing left to confirm the bass you have would be a full length pic, but from the bridge, pickguard, and what you have shown it leaves little doubt unless some swapped all that stuff out … do you have reverse tuning machines on the bass? … and is the serial # on the back of the headstock?
 
… not sure what I am missing here, but I thought we settled the issue of same size pups back in post #21 … this is NOT a MIM Standard, it would be a MIM Classic Series 60's Jazz, and they never used the same size pups … the part #'s I gave you would be for conventional size pickups, neck longer than bridge … ;)

… about the only thing left to confirm the bass you have would be a full length pic, but from the bridge, pickguard, and what you have shown it leaves little doubt unless some swapped all that stuff out … do you have reverse tuning machines on the bass? … and is the serial # on the back of the headstock?
Sorry for delayed response.
Serial no. on back of headstock. Dont know what reverse tuner means.
Neck pu 1.8
Bridge pu 1.9

So its a classic 60. Thanks

Waiting on flatwounds to arrive, then will take to tech for setup and shielding.
 
Sorry for delayed response.
Serial no. on back of headstock. Dont know what reverse tuner means.
Neck pu 1.8
Bridge pu 1.9

So its a classic 60. Thanks

… simply means that your tuning machines turn the reverse direction to tighten the strings … clockwise to tighten vs. counter clockwise

… I put up a picture of each so you know the difference going forward …;)

... the reason there is a serial # on the back of the MIM Standard headstock, is that it is a 2014 model, Fender moved it from the front to the back for the '09 model year … a MIM Standard Bass from the same year as your Classic Series 60's would be blank on the back of headstock ...
 

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Body wood is alder, maple neck, rosewood board …

When you call it Classic Series, it doesn't hurt to clarify by calling it MIM Classic Series, as MIJ/CIJ also has a 'Classic Series' …
Okay, will do. MIM Classic Series 60s Jazz.

I normally have a very relaxed attitude about gear. . Put a bass in my hands and i will play it.

Never owned a P, owned a J but gave it to my son. When I recorded, a vintage P bass with flats was usually handed to me. I am kind of excited about this bass. It may be the beginning of a long friendship.
 
The TI flats are on and folks were knocking on my practice room door to see what I was playing. They liked it a lot.

The Tech was out today, but I am very comfortable with the current string height, though it might be a bit high for most TBers. Diego Diegerson might have dug it.
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I had not seen the link offered in post #9 before, and just gave it a quick once over … after getting stung more than a few times with purchases early on, I made it a mission to educate myself on 'modern era' passive Fender basses … there are a few things in that posted link that should be expounded on and clarified .. ;)

There are in essence, 4 era's of MIM Standard Jazz basses … with regards to OP inquiry, I will mostly touch on electronics and major changes with each era …

MIM Standards were introduced in '91, and for the first year, some of the specs/details/components possibly varied a bit (this is Fender) … from then on, they were poplar bodied, and used two neck sized ceramic magnet pups (app. 3.60" in length), which were mfg'd for Fender by Cort, part #36437, split-splined shaft pots, under press-on Strat style knobs … this continued in production through appr. June of '01, for what was called the '01 model year ..

The next 'era' began appr. July of '01, for the 2002 model year, and was probably the biggest era change to take place for the MIM Standard Series … body wood was now alder, pickups were now conventional Fender Jazz size, with neck shorter/bridge longer (appr. 3.60"/3.74"), part numbers were 58294/58295, and were identifiable by the raised A and D pole pieces, still ceramic magnet … the change was also made to solid shaft pots, and conventional 'top hat' style Jazz bass knobs … this era ran through appr. June of 2005 (2005 model year)

The next 'era' began appr. July of '05, for the '06 model year, and the big changes here, were the switch to medium jumbo fret wire on the necks, fully shielded electronics for reduced hum, and Fender began including a gig bag with purchase … all electronics stayed the same as previous era … this era ran through appr. June of '08 (2008 model year)

The last era of MIM Standards began appr. July of '08, for the '09 model year … changes here were mostly aesthetics, but there also seemed to be an overall attempt to improve consistency in the model … Fender began using a heavier tinting on neck/headstock, and a switch was made to 70's style headstock logo, which also moved the serial # to the back of the headstock … the same hardware/electronics/specs as used through the last 'era', just changes once again in finishes offered … this era ran through to the end of MIM Standard series, until it evolved into the current Players Series ...

Hope this helps clear things up … there is a LOT of confusion on the MIM Standard Series, comments (pro and con) without noting what generation they are speaking … the early era models are a LOT different from later, both in components, specs, and consistency …
Were those raised (a&d) pole j pups from 2002 ceramic and hum canceling? I read somewhere that they were.. thanx for any help! pawleeP