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Fender question

Hi all.

I have been adamantly resisting Fender basses for a while now. Honestly, I never found one that suited me. I had an older Peavey Fury bass from the late 80’s that I loved because of its thin neck and that sort of bass just fits me. So been on the Ibanez bandwagon and don’t get me wrong, I still love my SR300. Love the neck, the feel…pretty much everything about it even though it is not a “premium” bass. Someday may move up the Ibanez line but happy with the 300 for now.

But, I got to thinking have I really given Fender’s a chance. Mostly been trying Squiers or lower end Fenders. Don’t get me wrong, Squier makes some amazing instruments for the price. The quality is absolutely astounding for what you pay for it. But there was just something about Squiers and Fenders that just didn’t feel right to me. But I got to thinking, okay…what if I move up and buy a more expensive, higher quality Fender. So….found a great deal on a Seafoam Green, P/J Special bass. It is listed as SFR and I think made in limited quantities for Guitar Center a couple years ago….MIM I believe. Lists for $899, but nabbed it used for $600. I can’t even tell it was ever used. It could easily pass as new. It is an astounding instrument. The sound and quality is just amazing. Badass bridge holds the sustain forever. It is just an amazing quality instrument and the feel and sound of the instrument is just night and day difference from the Squiers I have been using – and the Squiers are really good in their own right. This is obviously a step above. So easy to play, and that was always my knock against Fenders. I had a hard time playing them…it always felt like work. But the neck on this thing is very thin (not quite Ibanez but close enough), and fast and it has made playing bass so much fun. It is such a beautiful bass…almost makes me weep! Ha. I can get any tone out of it I can imagine.

Which makes me think….okay….I have moved half-way up the Fender ladder. What will going all the way get me? First of all, I love the whole P/J thing. So want that but would settle for a P-bass. And want roughly the same thin-ish neck profile. So first of all is there an American-made Fender that fits the bill? I can live without the P/J combo but can’t seem to live without a fairly thin, fast neck with my smallish hands. And if there is what would I notice for the extra $600-$700? Don’t get me wrong…very, very happy with this bass and believe it can take me into the promised land of being a decent musician someday. But what will I get if, for some reason, I move up to the gold standard American-made Fender P or P/J bass (if such a thing exists)

Also, how would the Geddy Lee Jazz bass compare to what I have, quality and sound wise. I know the neck would be right on par with what I am looking for – thin and fast. But is the Geddy more of a bass than what I have right now with my current Fender? Say I have $700 sitting around with nothing to do. Better to replace my current P/J with the more expensive MIA Fender or buy the Geddy Lee Jazz to have as an alternative to what I already have? I have heard such amazingly good things about the GL Jazz bass and know it is worth the money. But would I be better upgrading what I have to a MIA Fender P or P/J (with a thin neck remember) or adding the Geddy Lee to my stable, (and keeping the current P/J Special) for the same amount of money. I am NOT a professional, just a sort’ve advanced beginner so would I get the same bang for the buck moving up as I did moving up from the Squiers and cheap Fenders.

I am so happy with my Fender right now, I can’t even begin to tell you. I was reluctant but came around in the end. Just had to find the right one! I think it's a lesson learned...instead of buying a whole bunch of cheap basses that you end up not very happy with in the end, buy the best bass you can afford and learn to play.

Thanks for all the advice.
 
Those seafoam p/j's are sweet looking. Congrats! If you're looking for an American Fender with a slim profile neck, I'd suggest the American Special series basses. They have a very thin profile front-to-back, and for me they are more comfortable than some of their other models. The Geddy Lee Jazz bass is made in Mexico, but also has an extremely thin profile neck. Good luck, and hope this helps!

And post pics of your p/j!
 
You seem like you have found your perfect bass already in the Fender PJ Special, so I would just stick with that. Fender quality control is all over the map as my Mexican Standard plays and sounds better than a lot of the American Standards I have played. If you go with a Geddy Lee, look for a used MIJ, they can be had for $800 or less and are worlds better than the newer Mexican ones.
 
Hi all.

I have been adamantly resisting Fender basses for a while now. Honestly, I never found one that suited me. I had an older Peavey Fury bass from the late 80’s that I loved because of its thin neck and that sort of bass just fits me. So been on the Ibanez bandwagon and don’t get me wrong, I still love my SR300. Love the neck, the feel…pretty much everything about it even though it is not a “premium” bass. Someday may move up the Ibanez line but happy with the 300 for now.

But, I got to thinking have I really given Fender’s a chance. Mostly been trying Squiers or lower end Fenders. Don’t get me wrong, Squier makes some amazing instruments for the price. The quality is absolutely astounding for what you pay for it. But there was just something about Squiers and Fenders that just didn’t feel right to me. But I got to thinking, okay…what if I move up and buy a more expensive, higher quality Fender. So….found a great deal on a Seafoam Green, P/J Special bass. It is listed as SFR and I think made in limited quantities for Guitar Center a couple years ago….MIM I believe. Lists for $899, but nabbed it used for $600. I can’t even tell it was ever used. It could easily pass as new. It is an astounding instrument. The sound and quality is just amazing. Badass bridge holds the sustain forever. It is just an amazing quality instrument and the feel and sound of the instrument is just night and day difference from the Squiers I have been using – and the Squiers are really good in their own right. This is obviously a step above. So easy to play, and that was always my knock against Fenders. I had a hard time playing them…it always felt like work. But the neck on this thing is very thin (not quite Ibanez but close enough), and fast and it has made playing bass so much fun. It is such a beautiful bass…almost makes me weep! Ha. I can get any tone out of it I can imagine.

Which makes me think….okay….I have moved half-way up the Fender ladder. What will going all the way get me? First of all, I love the whole P/J thing. So want that but would settle for a P-bass. And want roughly the same thin-ish neck profile. So first of all is there an American-made Fender that fits the bill? I can live without the P/J combo but can’t seem to live without a fairly thin, fast neck with my smallish hands. And if there is what would I notice for the extra $600-$700? Don’t get me wrong…very, very happy with this bass and believe it can take me into the promised land of being a decent musician someday. But what will I get if, for some reason, I move up to the gold standard American-made Fender P or P/J bass (if such a thing exists)

Also, how would the Geddy Lee Jazz bass compare to what I have, quality and sound wise. I know the neck would be right on par with what I am looking for – thin and fast. But is the Geddy more of a bass than what I have right now with my current Fender? Say I have $700 sitting around with nothing to do. Better to replace my current P/J with the more expensive MIA Fender or buy the Geddy Lee Jazz to have as an alternative to what I already have? I have heard such amazingly good things about the GL Jazz bass and know it is worth the money. But would I be better upgrading what I have to a MIA Fender P or P/J (with a thin neck remember) or adding the Geddy Lee to my stable, (and keeping the current P/J Special) for the same amount of money. I am NOT a professional, just a sort’ve advanced beginner so would I get the same bang for the buck moving up as I did moving up from the Squiers and cheap Fenders.

I am so happy with my Fender right now, I can’t even begin to tell you. I was reluctant but came around in the end. Just had to find the right one! I think it's a lesson learned...instead of buying a whole bunch of cheap basses that you end up not very happy with in the end, buy the best bass you can afford and learn to play.

Thanks for all the advice.
Umm... Yeah, so uhh... PICTURE?!?

Come on TB community! ...you're slipping!!!

;-)

(Congrats on finding "the one")
 
There are a lot of different Fender's that could fit your bill. I bought a MIM Jazz bass and converted it to a P/J. Its not on the level yours is but I looked at it as a nice project to learn. Put a badass II with some seymour duncans on it and damn I love the P/J sound and I played straight P's for along time. But the sound of the bridge pickup adds so much to the sound. You're on the right track. Nice. There are a lot of Fender Jazz's that have the slim neck and P/J combo you're looking for. Congrats.
 

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Much like you, I played Ibanez basses but almost exclusively for 30 years, (heck look at my pic) and only bought my first Fender late last year. I realized that I haven't given their basses a chance and really playing the jazz bass was like an epiphany - back in my youth, I wanted a lot of knobs and was protesting the whole Fender thing. I think I did try someone's Fender but didn't find it comfortable, it was a P-bass - had I tried out a Jazz bass neck , I may have not been so judgmental 30 years ago.
Congrats on a fine bass that according to the revered TB custom DOES NOT EXIST until you post a picture. :)

One P/J Fender MIA bass I can recommend trying, if you can find it is a Fender JP-90. They don't make them anymore (made in the early nineties- usually can be found for around $300-400. Why do I recommend this bass? Well, it's got a slim Jazz bass neck, got a terrific sound and is incredibly light (even lighter than some Ibanez basses I have) - it's actually got the good qualities of a true Fender bass with Ibanez characteristics. Only thing that may be a knock against it, is the funky triangular pickguard. Personally, I find it oddly appealing- kind of grows on you.
So, keep an eye out for one- the price is right (try finding another true blue Fender MIA bass for around $300) it's got pretty much everything you're looking for except maybe the pickguard.

Also, don't count out the MIJ Fender basses such as the current Aerodyne. MIJ Fender basses are excellent instruments too.

Pic of my JP-90.
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Okay, guys. Sorry for not including a picture in my first post. Here it is. And the picture doesn't in anyway do this beauty justice. I'm serious....I can't believe I managed to snag this incredible instrument at the price I did. I had seen one earlier this year and I was still convinced my Squiers were still good enough and didn't want to spend the money that ended up being bid on Ebay and lost my nerve and lost the auction. Figured I wouldn't ever have a chance at it again. Then last week just happened to see this right before the auction ended, made a bid and was shocked I won. This thing is really brand new. Such a ridiculously good bass. So much better than anything I have ever owned and truly probably more bass than my abilities warrant right now but the bass gods were smiling on me this day. I guess, it's true....be patient and good things happen to good people....and sometimes even to me...ha ha.

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Okay, guys. Sorry for not including a picture in my first post. Here it is. And the picture doesn't in anyway do this beauty justice. I'm serious....I can't believe I managed to snag this incredible instrument at the price I did. I had seen one earlier this year and I was still convinced my Squiers were still good enough and didn't want to spend the money that ended up being bid on Ebay and lost my nerve and lost the auction. Figured I wouldn't ever have a chance at it again. Then last week just happened to see this right before the auction ended, made a bid and was shocked I won. This thing is really brand new. Such a ridiculously good bass. So much better than anything I have ever owned and truly probably more bass than my abilities warrant right now but the bass gods were smiling on me this day. I guess, it's true....be patient and good things happen to good people....and sometimes even to me...ha ha.

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Nice!
 
All Fenders are subject to variable quality control and real world variation from bass to bass, so you really do have to dig for the one diamond in ten (or sometimes twenty!) basses.

The Geddy Lee is a nice Jazz, but having had [quite] a few, I'd be looking at an American Standard, or the slightly cheaper American Special.

The Geddy Lee model has a really nice sound, but that specially thinned neck is VERY prone to weather changes. I sold mine on because it was never the same week to week. I suppose that having grown up playing graphite necks made me complacent, never having to add or remove relief, but the Geddy was serious hard work. I seem to recall I was setting the neck on a weekly basis.

The other option besides the Standard and a Special is the Deluxe. The latest (since 2010) preamp is very good and possibly the best sounding active Jazz that's still priced reasoably. The N3 pickups are great sounding too. Definitely worth a punt.
 
Okay, guys. Sorry for not including a picture in my first post. Here it is. And the picture doesn't in anyway do this beauty justice. I'm serious....I can't believe I managed to snag this incredible instrument at the price I did. I had seen one earlier this year and I was still convinced my Squiers were still good enough and didn't want to spend the money that ended up being bid on Ebay and lost my nerve and lost the auction. Figured I wouldn't ever have a chance at it again. Then last week just happened to see this right before the auction ended, made a bid and was shocked I won. This thing is really brand new. Such a ridiculously good bass. So much better than anything I have ever owned and truly probably more bass than my abilities warrant right now but the bass gods were smiling on me this day. I guess, it's true....be patient and good things happen to good people....and sometimes even to me...ha ha.

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I would've paid that price and laughed all the way home! Seriously, I've been thinking about buying the Deluxe Active Precision bass for $699...and it doesn't have the block inlays, which look great.
 
So, currently I have a MIJ Geddy Lee. No regrets. Before that, I had a active deluxe p bass special in blizzard pearl. Basically the same as what you got. I miss it badly now. I am looking to buy one of those FSR seafoams, so if you get tired of it send it my way. Especially if it's the active one. Most people seem to want the passive, I want the active. You definitely have one of the higher quality MIM basses there.
 
I played a bunch of Geddy's and American models and ultimately went with an AM Special.

The Geddy has a shiny neck, regardless of how it sounded, I couldn't get past that.

I just do not like gloss necks at all.

I really like the slim neck and amazing fit and finish of the AM Special.

The hardware is just standard, but it has worked very well for decades.

Amazing deal.
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