Yup - *I* would try another cable, then after that run it into another mixer, but I have the benefit of having more than 1 mixer at my house...
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Yup - *I* would try another cable, then after that run it into another mixer, but I have the benefit of having more than 1 mixer at my house...
After reading that " little receptacle tester" thread a while back, from here on out I'm going to use the receptacle tester as well as one of these.Link Removed
...and yes, test the outlet I'm using as well as the outlet the mixer is using. And any other outlets anyone is using with gear feeding the board.
...and yes, test the outlet I'm using as well as the outlet the mixer is using. And any other outlets anyone is using with gear feeding the board.
Well, The amp sounds great right out of the box. Plenty of new tones to play with. But the damper on the party is that I can't get the amp connected to the Fender Tone app on my phone via Bluetooth or connected to my home WiFi in order to get the latest firmware or download any "Artist Created Tones." That kinda sucks. I put in a ticket with Fender Customer Support. We'll see what they say.
I have a Studio 40 and I also have trouble connecting to it via Bluetooth. I was able to connect originally, but I have a lot of trouble reconnecting after turning the amp off or being away from it for a while. I found that if I follow these steps, then I can usually get it to reconnect:
1. Go into the menu and turn off Bluetooth.
2. Turn off the amp.
3. Forget the amp from the Bluetooth settings on my phone. (Of course, no need to do this step if it wasn’t connected in the first place.)
4. Turn the amp back on.
5. Go into the menu and turn Bluetooth back on.
6. Connect to the amp from my phone by accepting the security code on the amp and the phone.
I usually just connect to the amp with Bluetooth for streaming music. I don’t use the Tone app that much, but I think the above steps work for both.
I also have a support ticket in with Fender. It will be interesting to see if/when they have a solution.
Circuit Tester
I would recommend this one:
Power Gear 3-Wire Receptacle Tester-50542 - The Home Depot
You want to test the polarity, or the relationship with L1, neutral, and ground.
You also want to check for the absence of a ground (and could be the neutral since most power panels have the neutral buss tied to ground).
This little yellow checker will do all of this.
Not a bad idea to have a volt meter just to make sure the club is feeding something close to 120 VAC.
If the ground lift on your amp does not stop the humming (I'm assuming 60 cycle), check to make sure the console doesn't have the phantom power engaged.
I was a recording engineer for a lot of years and had access to all the pro DI boxes.
Honestly, unless you have a really good PA you probably won't noticed the difference between a good passive box or something high end.
The guys that dropped big cash will say that their REDDI sounds better, which it does, I challenge a blindfold listening test with a normal PA.
Those goofy little Whirlwind IMP's and that block one they used to make sound decent.
They made a zillion of them are cheap on the used market.
I would recommend this one:
Power Gear 3-Wire Receptacle Tester-50542 - The Home Depot
You want to test the polarity, or the relationship with L1, neutral, and ground.
You also want to check for the absence of a ground (and could be the neutral since most power panels have the neutral buss tied to ground).
This little yellow checker will do all of this.
Not a bad idea to have a volt meter just to make sure the club is feeding something close to 120 VAC.
If the ground lift on your amp does not stop the humming (I'm assuming 60 cycle), check to make sure the console doesn't have the phantom power engaged.
I was a recording engineer for a lot of years and had access to all the pro DI boxes.
Honestly, unless you have a really good PA you probably won't noticed the difference between a good passive box or something high end.
The guys that dropped big cash will say that their REDDI sounds better, which it does, I challenge a blindfold listening test with a normal PA.
Those goofy little Whirlwind IMP's and that block one they used to make sound decent.
They made a zillion of them are cheap on the used market.
Thanks, I just tried that and I still get the same result. Since these are basically a new product I'm sure Fender will have a fix. Oh the joys of the early adopter.
One suggestion I have for Fender is to develop a way to get the firmware update via the USB port on a hardwired connection as a backup. Everything else seems to work great except the wireless links.
Sorry to hear about these issues. I have a 800 stage and the bluetooth and wifi connectivity works flawlessly (knock on wood). Its been about 2 weeks with the amp and I like it more and more. It will be my home practice and light jamming workhorse. No need to haul out the V4B/212!
I just checked, and you can run a DI off the Effects Send without interrupting signal to the power amp section of a Rumble 200C... So, a person could use that for their send to the board - and although I didn't check, I wouldn't be surprised if it would both sound better than the onboard DI, and probably not be affected by Master Volume adjustments...
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I have not had a problem using the XLR out to feed a sound board. I've even told sound men it is post everything. Not one has complained. I don't typically touch my settings after sound check, so I don't see it as a problem. I see it as an asset. I can get the sound I want and I ask the sound man to EQ for the room and leave my tone alone. I've never had one complain at all. So, I guess I can see that some might want to have a signal before everything, but I don't see a real problem with it.
Yeah. I get the sound I wanna hear-or close-on stage. If the sound guy screws it up out front, I can't control that. Besides,they'll prolly have the kick drum up too high anyway.
That's OK as long as the rest of your band doesn't change during the night, but IME it's not uncommon for the drummer to start hitting a little harder, the guitars to turn up, or the singer to ask for more monitor during the night... If that happens, and I'm having a hard time hearing myself afterwards, I'm probably going to turn up - which would affect such a DI send - just sayin'...
To be honest, other than a function test when I first got it, I haven't used my Rumble 200C's DI outlet - I've just tied into the board with this:
That way, any adjustments I make at my amp don't affect my DI send at all - to each their own, though...
That works, too, but I don't use pedals except for a tuner. The sound man has a fader. If you need to turn up, he can adjust. He is probably doing that anyway, but you don't know it's happening. If you band mates can't control themselves, they might need a dose of maturity and professionalism.
While I agree with all the above, I'd just like to add that I've owned a couple IMP2 DIs, besides plenty of others - and *I* would spend a little more $$$ and get that Radial Stage Bug I linked to before I bought another IMP2, if I were in that position... The Stage Bug is nearly as small, and is typical Radial quality - for not much more than you'd spend on an IMP2 - I only paid $60 for mine...
I always carry a quality DI in my gig bag....as every working musician should IMO. However most of the time I go direct out from the Rumble and have nothing but compliments on the tone. I rarely have a need to mess with volume or other knobs during a gig though.
To each their own, Dave - I gigged with 8 different bands last year(130+ shows) - the things I mentioned really aren't uncommon... I'll stick with a DI send that isn't tied to my volume, but whatever works for you is fine with me...
Regarding pedals, I'm not real big on them, either - most of the time, the MXR M81 on my little board is only used as a DI, unless I'm playing thru a provided backline - and not even switched on - the rest are Tuner, HPF-3, and a wireless receiver... I have found that a setup like that is very convenient and versatile - it'll cover a lot of situations while still sending a consistent signal to the board...
Agreed about the DI, and as I said to Dave - whatever works for you is fine by me...
A quick pic from a gig last night.....My first time with both 210's, I do not go through a PA at this place and with the volume and knobs set the same, the tone was much fuller and projected a lot better in the room.
I can believe that! I wish I always had that much room I s'pose to you that's kinda tight but it's spacious to me!
