I've been using 10/2/2/10 as "default" for all my Rumbles. Seems to be pretty close on all 3(40, 100, 200c). Plus I use VINTAGE for a bit of "tubiness" most of the time and BRIGHT-as needed-for presence in boomy rooms.
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HAPPY FENDER FRIDAY
oh wait, that ain't right.
That is one of my favorite fenders...
Just picked up a used Rumble 210 to go with my Stage 800 at a price I couldn't refuse from Sweetwater. I had my sales engineer keeping a eye out for me and they got a local trade in, 2 days later it was in my house.
Zzz zxzx xvzx ... humf? ... [deep inhale] ... wazzup?
[yawn] ... ... [groan, ... stretch, ... crackle] ... [scratch] ... [snap] ulp! ... [POP!] OW! ... mmm 
mxzv ... [sniff] ... [cough, cough] ...Ok, ok, ok, ... Whassat "Rumble Flat" thread? This thread? Or sumpin' else? ...
Uh, ... if it please the court, ...
... There has been no evidence, whosoever, submitted nor alleged, that any of the aforementioned Rumble Frequency Curves used a microphone of any make, model or fashion to detect vibrational fluctuations of sonic transducers, AKA "speaker(s)", in their testing and/or production. Further toward said habeas corpus, the insinuation of such shenanigans is irrelevant, incompetent and immature. Objection sustained! 
Yet, according to this post, the graphed "Rumble Flat" settings were tested via the FX Send of the 500 combo. Theretofore, and forthwith, I submit that this is proximal enough to the immediate downstream of the pre-amp, which previous documentation (labeled as Block Diagrams A & 2) has shown as identical for models 40 to 500, including those between, and only slightly modified for the 800 HD, that it can be considered representative of all those model Rumbles by that venerable legal concept known as "a reasonable person." Yer Honor, the persecution rests its case and calls for immediate dismissal of all charges, poste haste.
ZzzzzPS: Xzvzx ... Um, ... on Rebuttal, ... DeFence submits this post showing the comparative relationships of similar tests taken, though with all controls at 12
, via the FX Send, the headphone jack and the XLR Line Out connections for general purposes of just confusing things,... mmm, ... if the court please. 
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Apologies for waking you from you slumber Dog!Zzz zxzx xvzx ... humf? ... [deep inhale] ... wazzup?
Ok, ok, ok, ... Whassat "Rumble Flat" thread? This thread? Or sumpin' else? ...
Uh, ... if it please the court, ...
Yet, according to this post, the graphed "Rumble Flat" settings were tested via the FX Send of the 500 combo. Theretofore, and forthwith, I submit that this is proximal enough to the immediate downstream of the pre-amp, which previous documentation (labeled as Block Diagrams A & 2) has shown as identical for models 40 to 500, including those between, and only slightly modified for the 800 HD, that it can be considered representative of all those model Rumbles by that venerable legal concept known as "a reasonable person." Yer Honor, the persecution rests its case and calls for immediate dismissal of all charges, poste haste.
PS: Xzvzx ... Um, ... on Rebuttal, ... DeFence submits this post showing the comparative relationships of similar tests taken, though with all controls at 12
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I was definitely thinking of/referring to GlennA’s test and post. Totally forgot it was the FX send, but makes total sense it wasn’t a mic, as the room would add extra frequencies. Thanks for clarifying, now back to bed with you!
Apologies for waking you from you slumber Dog!
... ... Thanks for clarifying, now back to bed with you!
Yo, that's OK, Al. It's just that ya caught me in one of my occasional daytime revelries where I am the unflapple Perry Mason and Della Street can't keep her hands offa me! All that legal mumbo jumbo seems to get her ... uh, ... goin'.
I love that old Raymond Burr TV series. You're just lucky I wasn't Marshall Dillon this time, out to impress Miss Kitty with my skilz with a shootin' iron! Chester or Festus mighta hadda plant ya on Boot Hill!
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Yes, as effective as the EQ knobs are, I think the frequencies are all wrong. The low mids are too low and the high mids are too high. Really one mids knob with a selectable range would be better. I guess I need a preampYeah it’s clock readings.
IDK about the others but everything I’ve brought up so far is no buttons engaged. I see these settings as a baseline, a starting point and tweak from there. Frankly though I haven’t used any of the buttons in quite a while.
the vintage definitely adds a little more in the low to low-mid range. The contour takes it down at 670Hz, which is a unique point in between the low mid and the high mid knobs. I kinda wish the amps had a reverse contour button to boost 670Hz! (v4 hint hint)
I have played around with the knobs and honestly (to MY ears THAT day) I got great tone taking the bass down to 8(almost off) and the low mids at 3.
I also just got a Tech 21 Sansamp
https://www.amazon.com/Tech-21-Sans...416371&sprefix=tech+21+sansamp,aps,141&sr=8-3
and have started experimenting with that and from just a couple hours of turning knobs with no plan or direction whatsoever, seems to be opening up a great deal more tonewise (more subtle variations and options). So that may be an option too, to dial in the tine you want.
FYI I only originally got the sansamp to avoid lugging the amp to rehearsals, as everyone else just uses a sansamp or mic into a mixing board to then listen through headphones and recording rehearsals. But now I’m glad I have it to experiment with.
Another side note, the rehearsal recordings seemed a bit too bassy/boomy on a few tunes and I actually experimented and recorded a session using the line out to the board with eq at bass off/12/2/12 and got a great low clear tone that cut through great. I’m sorry to say I don’t have the settings used on the board though, but was told later they were all at noon.
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So I liked my 40C enough that I went shopping and caught a gently used 800HD. But I got no cabs. I'm looking at the rumble cabs but the power handling spec seems to be just short of taking the 800. IE, we're putting out 400 watts @ 8 ohms but that 210 cab says 350 watts. The 115 is only 300.
Are those specs "close enough" or is it courting disaster if I really cranked it up? Or am I supposed to be getting a non-rumble cab to go with this 800HD?
Are those specs "close enough" or is it courting disaster if I really cranked it up? Or am I supposed to be getting a non-rumble cab to go with this 800HD?
Right now I set the knobs at 10/2/2/10 with the ports plugged and I get a good warm tone with my P basses with flats and rounds. I add high mids for more presence in the mix. Not playing live much however.
I still want a preamp but I'll probably build a tube version as soon as PedalPCB makes a PCB available.
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So...what if you don't really crank it up?
Since the Stage 800C has 2x10s built in and provides 400 watts of power, and adding a V3 210 cabinet unleashes the additional 400 watts, I'd say you're pretty safe using a V3 210 cabinet, unless you want to really want to push the head to its limits. You could also use a 410 cabinet instead.
I'm sure someone with more experience with these amps can provide more info/a better explanation.
Well, it appears you found the money. @andare, you are now member #1409 in the Fender Rumble Club. Congratulations and welcome, finally. See more induction instructions below*.
Glad to meet you, Nebby. @Nebraska, you are now member #1410 in the Fender Rumble Club. Congratulations and welcome to The Club.
*Both of you new members, please put those numbers in your TalkBass Signatures for safe keeping. Then make yourselves at home here and on your Rumble Club Wiki page, the repository of all Rumbling wisdom and knowledge.
Nebby, listen to RL5, he's exactly right. The Rumble 210 cab is exactly what's in the Rumble Stage 800 combo at up to 400 watts alone. The 350W rating is just a leftover from the 210's 2014 introduction when the Rumble 500 head at 350W @ 8 ohms was top o' the line, so that's where they labeled it. Then, 4 years later, with 4 years more testing and field experience, the Stage 800 combo appears with the same 2x10" speakers. So, it's the smallest single cab sufficient for the Rumble 800 HD alone. Of course, having 3 cabs reduces the power to 267W for each, and 4 cabs is just 200W each!
*It's great to have you both with us. andy, you've been joining discussions already. Nebby, please tell us a bit about yourself, such as your bass experience in general and your Rumble journey in particular. All are welcome here and fit right in. Especially when we all come together and love to ... ...
*Both of you new members, please put those numbers in your TalkBass Signatures for safe keeping. Then make yourselves at home here and on your Rumble Club Wiki page, the repository of all Rumbling wisdom and knowledge.
Nebby, listen to RL5, he's exactly right. The Rumble 210 cab is exactly what's in the Rumble Stage 800 combo at up to 400 watts alone. The 350W rating is just a leftover from the 210's 2014 introduction when the Rumble 500 head at 350W @ 8 ohms was top o' the line, so that's where they labeled it. Then, 4 years later, with 4 years more testing and field experience, the Stage 800 combo appears with the same 2x10" speakers. So, it's the smallest single cab sufficient for the Rumble 800 HD alone. Of course, having 3 cabs reduces the power to 267W for each, and 4 cabs is just 200W each!
*It's great to have you both with us. andy, you've been joining discussions already. Nebby, please tell us a bit about yourself, such as your bass experience in general and your Rumble journey in particular. All are welcome here and fit right in. Especially when we all come together and love to ... ...
Rumble On!
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I've been pretty happy with 10/2/2/10-with minor tweaks-for awhile but I guess I'll f---*with some of these other combinations next time we play out. I could try them at the house I s'pose, but we don't have a lotta gigs here at the house and whatever sounds best here isn't all that likely to sound the same elsewhere. There's also the fact that I play a 1967 Gibson Thunderbird w/ EBCF's, so my input ain't gonna be the same. Oh, well, off to the laboratory.
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Sorry for not joining the club officially before. I've had my Rumble 100 since January.
Don't have a band now but I sit in on bass on pickup gigs if I like the music. Last time I played Sabbath with the high mids all the way up and a touch of OD.
I'm all for the vintage tone of the Rumble but plugging the ports has cleared up the low end a bit.
Don't have a band now but I sit in on bass on pickup gigs if I like the music. Last time I played Sabbath with the high mids all the way up and a touch of OD.
I'm all for the vintage tone of the Rumble but plugging the ports has cleared up the low end a bit.
Zzz zxzx xvzx ... humf? ... [deep inhale] ... wazzup?
Ok, ok, ok, ... Whassat "Rumble Flat" thread? This thread? Or sumpin' else? ...
Uh, ... if it please the court, ...
Yet, according to this post, the graphed "Rumble Flat" settings were tested via the FX Send of the 500 combo. Theretofore, and forthwith, I submit that this is proximal enough to the immediate downstream of the pre-amp, which previous documentation (labeled as Block Diagrams A & 2) has shown as identical for models 40 to 500, including those between, and only slightly modified for the 800 HD, that it can be considered representative of all those model Rumbles by that venerable legal concept known as "a reasonable person." Yer Honor, the persecution rests its case and calls for immediate dismissal of all charges, poste haste.
PS: Xzvzx ... Um, ... on Rebuttal, ... DeFence submits this post showing the comparative relationships of similar tests taken, though with all controls at 12
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I guess I don’t understand some folks’ obsession with flat response in a bass amp. I’m probably wrong, but my understanding of the reason Leo designed the “scooped” tone stack for his amps was that the speakers and cabs in the older amps had a midrange peak, and the scooped EQ was intended to RESTORE some “flatness” to the tone.
If you plugged a flat “hi-fi” speaker into the average bass amp head it would sound very different than a bass cab.
When I’m playing a gig I like to shoot for the tone just about every amateur bassist (and a bunch of the early one-hit-wonder band bassists) were getting: I plug my JMJ Mustang into my Rumble 200, set all four EQ knobs to 12 o’clock, push on the “Vintage” button, and play. Works for me, and I’ve never had a complaint or “suggestion”!
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I don't get the effects obsession of lots of folks. Me, I like the sound of my Jazz just as it is. I never diddle the amp knobs. I may spin a bass knob occasionally, but I can change the position of my right hand and change the tone drastically.
True dat, Kenny! Glad you found us. @KenB, you are now member #1411 in the Fender Rumble Club. Congratulations and welcome. Please put your number in your TalkBass Signature for safe keeping. Then make yourself at home here and on your Rumble Club Wiki page, the repository of all Rumbling wisdom and knowledge.
Kenny, your obviously a student of the history of musical instruments, probably among many other things. P,ease tell us a bit more about yourself, such as your bass experience in general and your Rumble journey in particular. You're gonna fit right in here, especially when we all love to ... ...
Rumble On!
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Welp, right or wrong, I walked into Dietze this afternoon and there was a Rumble 115 sitting in their showroom so now it's in my trunk. Guess I'll just have to watch for signs of distortion/abuse. As the gent above said, I don't have to turn it up to 11. And in my basement it will probably never turn up too far.
The 800 is way too much amp for me, but more is always better. I guess.
The 800 is way too much amp for me, but more is always better. I guess.
