I just realized the other day just how much better my Rumble 100 sounded if I bumped up the gain just a little more. About 1:00 was where I ended up with it.
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there are eq curves for the buttons in the thread somewhere (maybe wiki too)
thing is thatvitage has some compression too, so an eq+slight compession could do similar
Correct. More signal into the tone stack that doesn't need to be "gained" back up to where it started. The exception being if the volume control alone can't get quiet enough because of a poor sweep, cheap pot etc.
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Indeed. I'm going to put casters on it this week!
Yes, blackie, according to this Rumble Talk on Rumble woofers, the Rumble 200 combo and the Rumble 115 cab do have the same speaker! Although, it does seem like a lot of giveaway to put a 300 watt speaker in a 140 watt (tops) combo, apparently they think it's worth it to ensure they never accidentally put a 140 watt speaker in a cab advertised at 300 watts. 
The Rumble talker didn't mention it in that post, but he had an anonymous inside source at Fender that he got his info from.
The Rumble talker didn't mention it in that post, but he had an anonymous inside source at Fender that he got his info from.It's impossible to know these theoretical answers without testing, or at least tons more given data, blackie. As soon as one says "all things being equal, yes" then all things are not equal! Such as:
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2. The R200c and the 115 cab have different sizes, which will certainly affect tone and possibly even volumes from them.
D. Your theoretical 180/280 watt head is probably actually different ratings in real life. And, even if not, it is bound to be different preamp & power amp from the R200c.
♤. Your Kong 112 neo cab is gonna be oh so totally different from the Rumble 115 ceramic cab, so no one can say how they compare.
But, yeah, sure, "all things being equal." ♤. Your Kong 112 neo cab is gonna be oh so totally different from the Rumble 115 ceramic cab, so no one can say how they compare.
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Jogo, the Rumble Gain is not your classic gain control. Plus, it is very interactive with other controls. This Rumble Talk on Gain Structure may be of interest. But, if what you're already doing is working for you, then ... ... Rumble On!
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And, thereby hangs the tale: If one gets the tone they're looking for with some 'oddball' settings, then the search is a success. What I want in tone may be completely 'wrong' for the next person.Jogo, the Rumble Gain is not your classic gain control. Plus, it is very interactive with other controls. This Rumble Talk on Gain Structure may be of interest. But, if what you're already doing is working for you, then ... ... Rumble On!
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And that is also why you can't convince anyone who doesn't like a tone (with 'oddball' settings) to re-EQ to something more reasonable for a better tone. What they think they want in settings may have worked once long ago, on an amp far away, but they don't work on every amp everywhere!
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Yup. On my 1963 'piggyback' Bassman, I set bass at 10, treble ~5, volume 5-ish, and presence 10(Bass channel-EB-3 on neck pickup). Do that on a Rumble and it'd be "mud city".And that is also why you can't convince anyone who doesn't like a tone (with 'oddball' settings) to re-EQ to something more reasonable for a better tone. What they think they want in settings may have worked once long ago, on an amp far away, but they don't work on every amp everywhere!
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Hey everyone! Quick question regarding the 800c DI: does anyone know if the output switch (low/high) will affect the DI signal to the FOH. In either pre or post eq mode, if I flip that switch will the FOH get more or less signal or is it unrelated. I know the switch changes the amp from 400w to 100w internal just wondering if it’s integrated into the DI at all.
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Jogo, the Rumble Gain is not your classic gain control. Plus, it is very interactive with other controls. This Rumble Talk on Gain Structure may be of interest. But, if what you're already doing is working for you, then ... ... Rumble On!
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Thanks, I had a read and understand it better now. I CAN turn the gain knob all the way up without clipping but that's just my old school thinking. On the rumble it will affect the overdrive and vintage options. Which is as expected for me. I play with a passive bass that has a passive active switch. I usually run it passive though. I have the active circuitry setup up so that the volume is about the same as the passive mode. This is lower than your average active bass so the 3 o clock position works fine for the gain on this bass.
But what I don't get.. I tried the master at noon and regulate the volume with the gain knob, but that makes me think I'll never get the full power of the amp that way. Gain at 3 o clock gives me a lot of headroom on the master.
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And that is also why you can't convince anyone who doesn't like a tone (with 'oddball' settings) to re-EQ to something more reasonable for a better tone. What they think they want in settings may have worked once long ago, on an amp far away, but they don't work on every amp everywhere!
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I don't base tone on settings on the amp. I use my ears for that. Not maxing out the gain stage seems counter intuitive to me as it will limit the maximum power I can get out of the amp.
With the shape buttons off and the EQ set at what's supposed to be flat for the Rumble I get a tone I like. Turning up the gain or the master both makes it louder. But with the gain stuck at 9 o clock I don't get even close to the full 350 watts of output. With my bass I can turn that gain up to full and get the most out of the amp, logically.
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Thanks, for confirming what I thought was the right way. I do turn the gain down when practicing in my apartment. Because that's the only way to get the amp to output lower volume
No, B, the XLR Out is upstream of both the Master volume control and the power Output switch, so neither of them can affect the "DI" signal level. See the Rumble 800 Combo Block Diagram.
Do you have an R800c yet, B, or any other Rumble? I'd be glad to bestow a free membership upon you. Photos aren't required, but they are encouraged.
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No, B, the XLR Out is upstream of both the Master volume control and the power Output switch, so neither of them can affect the "DI" signal level. See the Rumble 800 Combo Block Diagram.
Do you have an R800c yet, B, or any other Rumble? I'd be glad to bestow a free membership upon you. Photos aren't required, but they are encouraged.
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Thanks for the reply G-Dog. That makes sense, I appreciate the info! Yeah I have a new Rumble 800c and love it so far! I’d love a number. Pics to come!
Aaii-EEeee! @Bfresh29, you are now member #1612 in the Fender Rumble Club. Congratulations and welcome. Put that number in your TalkBass Signature for safe keeping. Then make yourself at home here and on your Rumble Club Wiki page, the repository of all Rumbling wisdom and knowledge.
How 'bout telling us a bit about yourself, B, such as your bass experience in general and your Rumble journey in particular? Or, do you have any comparison of the tone of the R800c to any other Rumbles? You're bound to fit right in here since we have all kinds. But we all love to ... ... ...
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Well, that's a great action shot of your R500c, noogy! But, I gotta ask ..., what, pray tell, is that fretless wonder leaning against it??? I don't recognize, and can't read, the headstock. But it sure looks interesting!
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I was thinking the same thing.Well, that's a great action shot of your R500c, noogy! But, I gotta ask ..., what, pray tell, is that fretless wonder leaning against it??? I don't recognize, and can't read, the headstock. But it sure looks interesting!
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