The Overdrive has its own compression circuitry, so yes you are getting enhanced.
Fender Rumble Overdrive
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Fender Rumble Overdrive
yeah but preventing it from adding that fuzzy distortion in the highs when hitting hard only works when i use my compresor pedal before input. this way it can be used just like a sansamp for just adding a little presence.
If you were closer I'd work out a swap with my 200C. It is WAY too much for our little church service. The master is barely at 9:00...I WISH it was only a 100..... I have a 350 head for more power...The only thing I'd not want to give up is the 15 inch speaker!.
Sunday afternoon, so: time to play
I used my modded V3 100 and compared with and without my V3 210 cab.
My findings where that, using the same settings, adding the 210 made the sound noticeably deeper but not really louder per se.
Can't tell if that would cut through better with the band, depends on the other musicians, room acoustics, etc.
I would guess the V3 100 amp would run out of power before it would be louder than without cabinet.
Didn't try that out in my home studio because I need my ears...
About adding a 2nd 100: as far as my (limited) knowledge goes is that adding a similar speaker will add 3 dB. I'm not sure if that will cut it.
So @nico485 I would agree with @Bodeanly that a 500 combo would probably save your day.
I've practiced with several bands and still had plenty of headroom.
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I've run into many old speakers that do indeed sound old and tired. Just like old people, their bottoms get flabby. Even though they are not blown they could do with a recone to revitalize them. Too bad I can't be reconed.
Hey hey hey! This is a family forum!
Chiming in on nico485's need for power:
I am a huge fan of linear arrays of matched speakers being fed with matched power. Thus I would tend to favor maybe the cheapest solution of selling the R40 and coupling two R100 via effects send/return. And arraying them one atop the other.
I would be torn between the chained 100s and just dumping it all and getting the R200. That is a pretty sweet combo for the price and it can get pretty loud. Then later you can add the 115 cabinet for some serious grunt. If I was starting fresh, I'd def go with a R200, but since you've already got a R100, coupled R100s would be cheaper for you at this point.
I do like Bodeanly's advice to clean house and sell everything you can and get a R500. It sort of lays the issue to rest.
I am a huge fan of linear arrays of matched speakers being fed with matched power. Thus I would tend to favor maybe the cheapest solution of selling the R40 and coupling two R100 via effects send/return. And arraying them one atop the other.
I would be torn between the chained 100s and just dumping it all and getting the R200. That is a pretty sweet combo for the price and it can get pretty loud. Then later you can add the 115 cabinet for some serious grunt. If I was starting fresh, I'd def go with a R200, but since you've already got a R100, coupled R100s would be cheaper for you at this point.
I do like Bodeanly's advice to clean house and sell everything you can and get a R500. It sort of lays the issue to rest.
I find the 100 to be a fantastic at home amp and for low volume group situations. It doesn't keep up with my loude rock drummer. The 200 does much better even without the extension cab.
I agree that the 500 is ideal. Just have to find one used. I'm looking as well.
I agree that the 500 is ideal. Just have to find one used. I'm looking as well.
Thank you everyone for the advice and experience!
Sums it up haha. But yea I'm afraid at this point to get a second 100 and then be in the same boat.
I've got both listed on my local CL so we'll see what happens.
As of right now, I'm just trying to figure out exactly what wattage I should be looking for because I'm not sure I'll be able to swing a 500, even used.
One last thing, how bad is diming my 100 going to be? We have another practice set for next weekend and I'm sure I won't have sold anything by then(things seem to move slow around here) So I will probably be using the 100 again. Should I just crank master to full and push gain up some more? Will this give me any more volume or just drive the amp harder? Like I said I had gain at noon and master at 3 o'clock. And I felt like I was pushing it too much but it never farted out or anything. And sounded fine when I could hear it(i.e. the drummer stopped lol) I just don't want to push it too far.
Sums it up haha. But yea I'm afraid at this point to get a second 100 and then be in the same boat.
I've got both listed on my local CL so we'll see what happens.
As of right now, I'm just trying to figure out exactly what wattage I should be looking for because I'm not sure I'll be able to swing a 500, even used.
One last thing, how bad is diming my 100 going to be? We have another practice set for next weekend and I'm sure I won't have sold anything by then(things seem to move slow around here) So I will probably be using the 100 again. Should I just crank master to full and push gain up some more? Will this give me any more volume or just drive the amp harder? Like I said I had gain at noon and master at 3 o'clock. And I felt like I was pushing it too much but it never farted out or anything. And sounded fine when I could hear it(i.e. the drummer stopped lol) I just don't want to push it too far.
Well you would definitely have more than just two R100s. The deal with line arrays is that the result is equal to more than just the sum of the parts. The constructive interference works to send sound waves farther than traditional speaker configurations. This is a real thing.
On the other hand, I've yet to hear of anyone dissatisfied with either the R200 or R500. I think the R200 hits a real sweet spot in bang-for-buck.
Great info!
So, what it comes down to is if the 200 is working for people by itself, would two 100s stacked be at least as loud as a 200 and work for me?
OK you have two Rumble 100's they each put out the very same Sound Pressure Level as measured in decibels. You are moving twice as much air. If they are stacked you get the benefit of being a line array and the coupling effect of identical stacked drivers. All good things.
The 140 watts of the Rumble 200 1x15 combo will definitely have greater SPL than a single Rumble 100 and move more air, but a pair of Rumble 100's will yield greater SPL and move more air. Never under estimate the advantage of simply moving more air even at the very same dB level.
However putting a Rumble 200 combo on top of the Rumble 115 will be significantly louder and move more air than the twin Rumble 100's. It will also be a line array and benefit from the coupling effect. Also you will have 200 watts of headroom vs 100. Even though twin 100's yield a total of 200 watts, you still only have 100 watts of headroom as that isn't additive.
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To add to Linnin's excellent post directly above, the only way I would choose stacked R100s over a single R200 is if I already owned at least one of the R100s and was looking to spend as little $$$ as possible. The 150-dollar question.
Very true! Plus most of us are not loaded with unlimited funds or credit. This is why I keep my V2 Rumbles. They sound great, get the job done, and they are paid for!
wait the post out isn't my gripe but stuff I read on the reviews it seems to be the only complaint. not sure if you guys ever played a gig where the sound guy asked if you can turn down the stage volume usually with me it was because they just mic'd my cab or it was a house cab you just put your head on,, a few times with my other amp they would plug in the back and assuming they went pre out with the signal. my stuff is usually pretty flat and I eq the bass but just turning the tone down so shouldn't be a problem I was just curious if anyone knew about this and maybe backed the bass off another qtr. turn or something.
also the gain yes it does grit on mine,,,, I turn that thing up from 2 o'clock to peak and yes I can hear the signal grit for me but by the word grit I mean its good and what I want it to do.
also the gain yes it does grit on mine,,,, I turn that thing up from 2 o'clock to peak and yes I can hear the signal grit for me but by the word grit I mean its good and what I want it to do.
If it were me, I'd just get a new stock speaker and turn on the guitar-player-force field. No more touchy the knobs! The stock speakers are great. It would match the remaining stock speaker, also.Anyone swap the speakers in their rumble 500 2x10, my guitar player plays bass on a song and turned all the knobs on my bass to max (Spector) now u have a blown speakerany help would b greatly appreciated.
Yea I've got a Rumble 40 and Rumble 100 already. And definitely looking for loudest option with spending as little as possible. As of right now I'm waiting to see if either or both will sell. That will be the deciding factor really.
