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Fender Rumble gigging question

Only you can determine what is right. Arguements for more watts-
Dynamic range, the distance between silence, and as loud as it will go is much greater with more horsepower.
Clipping. If you start to get a little rambunctious during Freebird, a smaller amp will start to clip. This is torture on your speakers, and not a pretty sound.
 
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I'm gonna have to agree with the others here. It sounds like there was something wrong with the amp you tried, or the input gain (not overdrive) was set too high. I have a 500 combo in my room, and it can play super quiet with no problem. Even if you set the master at a about a quarter volume, the input gain does a nice job of keeping it quiet.
 
I've got a Rumble 500 and It works for playing low late at night to as loud as I've ever wanted/needed it to go. I'm like the others, check you input gain and keep it down. I can empty my brother's music room by cranking the gain which makes the master volume come up real quick, or roll the gain way back and use the master volume to get the loudness, but never had any problems keeping the volume down low if that's what's needed.
 
It sounds to me like the gain pot is dodgy....
I had that with a gig a month ago...The supplied rig was a LM3 into an ampeg quadbox.
"Beauty!" thinks me..."same controlls as my LM2, LM250 and CMD!!!"
On stage sound was loud and horrible!...luckily after some weird EQing it was OK and the FOH was good anyway.
The sound guy was sure it must have been me and not the amp......

I got a "told you so" moment later that night, same event but different venue..same backline gear..
The band before us (we were second) couldn't get the gain pot to work at all!
(both their bassist and I had our amps so no biggy...)

My point is.....
(sorry for the long story) I reckon you should try another rumble before making a decision!
 
They're a pain, but easily cleaned up with a shot of Deoxit D5. The shafts are sealed and the amp must be removed and the pots cleaned from the rear. I have not had any problem but others have and this is the solution.
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I found that two quick bursts of Deoxit D5 from the front does away with the scratchiness. Unfortunately, it also does away with the damping grease, so the pot will be very loose afterwards.

I think the only good solution is to replace the pot.
 
You might not need the higher volume, and the extra power now, but you may need it sometime down the road.

That's what the wife said when I was buying a sub to add to the PA rig. Got a decent 18" powered sub which, for our folk/soft rock acoustic based trio without drummer, has proven to be much more than we need. I'd like a decent quality 15" or even one of the high quality 12" subs that are smaller and lighter.
 
Hi All,
I have been giving a bit of thought into picking up a Rumble 200 or 500 as a practical and easily carried amp for smaller gig use.

I got a chance to try out a 200 today and this thing is REALLY LOUD. I was somewhat dismayed to find that if I barely crack the master up it's way louder than what it needs to be.

This means it's just a pain to use in a home setting or small space, I've now totally ruled out a 500. Who on earth needs that kind of volume for a stage monitor? I've been involved with performance for something like 30 years so I'm not new to gigging with a combo.

I plugged into a Rumble 100 and it was a lot more managable and still IMHO plenty loud to gig. Since they have DIs I don't understand all the recommendations to get a 200 (but preferrably 500) for live use. I've always used a "smaller" either combo or seperate head/cab for performance use and any place that would require more volume always has a dedicated PA with sound guy that I ported a DI to.

I felt that the 100 would be much more ideal as a stage monitor. Anybody else that can shed some light on those thoughts?

Thanks much!

i tried a 200 combo in 2015 and it was the same as yours, really loud at minimal volume settings and almost no more gain in volume when cranking it up further. maybe bad wiring in some way? i have a 500c and also a 200 head now and they behave like they should, very different from the 200c i tried.
 
Only you can determine what is right. Arguements for more watts-
Dynamic range, the distance between silence, and as loud as it will go is much greater with more horsepower.
Clipping. If you start to get a little rambunctious during Freebird, a smaller amp will start to clip. This is torture on your speakers, and not a pretty sound.

PSA: whether driving an amp to its limits sounds good is dependent on the amp - some distort gracefully, some even pleasantly, however it is not torture on your speakers. Underpowering is a myth.
 
I have a Rumble 200 that I use mainly with my blues duo - acoustic slide guitar through the pa, and bass through the Rumble. I also use it for smaller gigs with my rock band.
I have never had any of the issues you have described. I typically set the gain and all of the tone controls at noon, vintage voicing on, and volume at two (or less) so that I can control the volume as needed from the volume on my bass.
 
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As far as the "you just can't buy too many watts" thing goes, I'd say I wouldn't buy a Marshall stack to play coffee shop gigs. I'm in my 60's and I approach purchases a lot more realistically now, hence the entire topic posted here.
I'm attempting to reach a decision based on cost, size, weight, and the experiences of others without getting an amp that just ends up being way more than I practically need.

When I stopped in to audition the 200 and 500 side by side it was obvious that the 200 would be plenty based on my needs, but the lack of ability to play at a lower volume was puzzling. The odd thing to me was that the input volume had little effect on reducing the volume (even fully CCW) if the master was raised only slightly.

From all the terribly helpful posts here it does look like there was a problem with the 200.

Furthering my confusion was that the 100's capability of being as loud as it was, and it responded to change in input level on the amp in combination with the master in a way that matched what I was used to on the several amps I've used throughout my Strat, Tele, and bass playing forays over the years. I did lean the 100 over and there was a DI as with the larger amps, so that gave me further pause to think that maybe the 200 was also a bit more than what I really needed, since my bar gig days are by choice few today, and it's gonna most likely stay that way.

It's just as likely that it would be something like a park district gig where a smaller amp for personal monitor works out fine. I've used a DI in the past for those types of gigs, but not one built into the amp. Along those lines, it's unfortunate that the DI isn't pre/post switchable, so it's no big deal to use a DI before the amp. I've gigged in various bands with assorted styles for over 30 years, so I'm pretty solid on what I need as far as a stage volume.

Thanks much to each and every one of you for the voice of reason to help sort it out, it's been clarifying for me. As always, any further comments are certainly welcome!
 
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I think there are two possibilities: you had the amp gain set too high OR there was something wrong with that amp. If it were me I would go back to the store and try it again with starting with the gain fully down, master volume full up. Increase the gain until you get what you consider a reasonable volume. NOW play with the master and see if it behaves as it should. Chances are, it will. IF it won't then something is wrong and you would want to try another before making your decision between the 100 and the 200.

Except for speaker efficiency there should be little to no difference between a 100 and a 200. They have the same everything except the power section and the speaker. The 200 will deliver only 140W to its 8 Ohm internal speaker which is only 1.5dB more than the 100. If you want to get 200W out of it you have to use an external cab to get a 4 Ohm load and even then your are only 3dB higher. So any real volume difference between the two has to come from the speaker efficiency as much as from the power output.

I'm thinking about getting a 100. Mostly for a practice amp. My only "gig" is playing in a church band through a house PA and there are no foreseeable prospects of that changing. I might want to take it on that crazy annual bicycle ride across Iowa sometime however so I am giving a lot of weight to portability and by portability I mean not too large or heavy to carry on a bicycle. When you drive through Iowa in your car or look down on it as you fly over you are tempted to think of Iowa as "flat". When you are touring Iowa on a bicycle you quickly learn that it is not! Otherwise I would be tempted by the 200 for its larger speaker and horn driver which probably account for the reports of its nice tone in this thread....

I mean the 200 is plenty portable for those who are not considering hauling it up Potter's Hill on a bicycle!