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Festival Question

When Playing Multi Band Bills Outdoors

  • It Would Suck to Go UNDER the Allotted Time

    Votes: 8 8.0%
  • It would Suck a Little to go 2 minutes over

    Votes: 30 30.0%
  • It would Suck a LOT to go 2 minutes over, you greedy pigs

    Votes: 44 44.0%
  • You can go 5 or more minutes over, as long as you are good

    Votes: 8 8.0%
  • You should bring carrots

    Votes: 23 23.0%

  • Total voters
    100
Screw that.

I use one of THESE:

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Mine is all black. It came with chrome blades, but I took them out and spray painted them.

I use it in every show. If you look at most of my videos, you can see it, but you have to look for it, because it blends in pretty good.

In multi-band shows, I've had other bands request I leave it onstage after we're done, but of course, I never do.

I paid about eighty bucks for it. It's all metal, and it's all MINE.

I have never had issues with it being picked up by mics or bass pickups.
 
We were scheduled from 6:00-6:45. The event planner told me we had to be done playing at 6:50. They started us three minutes late, and we played until 6:49.

The crowd loved us, and everybody came up to me after the show and said their favorite song was, (as I predicted,) Freebird.

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The weather was perfect, and the so was the band. I've never been so happy with everyone. They filmed us for Access Fort Wayne, but they will take about 2 weeks to get me the DVD. We also shot some video, so I may end up posting some on here.
 
I am glad things went well, I was one of the people here concerned about you going over time, but that doesn't stop me from congratulating you on a great gig. I still have my opinion that it's sometimes easier to follow the rules unless there is some overwhelming reason not to, nine times out of ten everything is fine It's just that sometimes you run into some one who will use any excuse to hold it against you that you didn't do what they asked. Call it tempting fate, I still would have done all I could just to come in at 45 minutes and spared myself all the stress of having to think about it so much.
 
O.K.
Good show mellow.

Where did you cut the 6 minutes?

Were already going over 2 min.
Started late by 3 min.
Ended ahead of schedule 1 Min.

Where did you shave the time ?

no, he was scheduled 45 and told 50 was drop dead, used 3 on front end, gave up 1 on the back (of the 50) so only dropped a minute. my guess is tempo as someone mentioned earlier. that and they prob played 46 min and some seconds.

glad it went well. the pics look great!
 
Started late and finished early. Now you can tell everyone ragging on you to "Suck it".

No, no; I would never do that. I asked for input because I wanted it, and I think we have to remember everyone was basing their advice on their own experiences. Some festivals are run tighter than others. My only issue was when the guy said, "even asking them about it is an insult..." or something like that. At some point, you have to just say, "c'mon, man!"

Are you using a Fender Rumble on stage? What model? What are your impressions using it live?

I've used that Rumble 60 at every show since I bought it, about three or four years ago. It is more than adequate. It has a nice tone, and it has never been turned up more than halfway. I had it rigged so that we could both use it, by simply switching our wireless on or off. I had two transmitters on the same frequency. Krystal usually uses a big 2x15 cab, and she hates my little rumble, but we wanted efficiency on setup and teardown. That amp rules, in my opinion.

I am glad things went well, I was one of the people here concerned about you going over time, but that doesn't stop me from congratulating you on a great gig. I still have my opinion that it's sometimes easier to follow the rules unless there is some overwhelming reason not to, nine times out of ten everything is fine It's just that sometimes you run into some one who will use any excuse to hold it against you that you didn't do what they asked. Call it tempting fate, I still would have done all I could just to come in at 45 minutes and spared myself all the stress of having to think about it so much.

I always stress about time management, and remember, I had three other members who wanted to do what they wanted to do. We do like to live on the edge, but it's important not to go over it, if possible.

O.K.
Good show mellow.

Where did you cut the 6 minutes?

Were already going over 2 min.
Started late by 3 min.
Ended ahead of schedule 1 Min.

Where did you shave the time ?

no, he was scheduled 45 and told 50 was drop dead, used 3 on front end, gave up 1 on the back (of the 50) so only dropped a minute. my guess is tempo as someone mentioned earlier. that and they prob played 46 min and some seconds.

glad it went well. the pics look great!

I would say there were some small tempo increases. I'm just happy they weren't too bad, because I hate that. We flowed directly from one song to another in most cases. We were introduced, and came out rocking; when I take off my bass and Krystal had to switch from 12-string to bass, I did my standard "Rocking in the Free World" speech, where I talk about people in the military, and the USA, and of course, we have one short dead stop before Freebird, so I can ask "What song is it you wanna hear?" as I always feel compelled to do.

I look forward to posting video. The sound my camera picked up sounded tinny, hopefully just because of camera placement. I was told by festival goers that we sounded "great," and I can only go by that. I heard the band after us, and they were too loud, and sounded like a wall of noise. I asked people if we were that loud, and they said, "yeah, you were really loud, but you sounded a lot better than that."

As anal as I am, you can almost bet we didn't sound as good as I would've liked to, but I think the sound was about a 6.5 out of ten.

Could've had more defined bottom end; could've been more consistent; could've had more effects on the vocals.

But remember, I'm far more picky than most people, and we will see what the "pro" video sounds like. I know we had plenty of subs, so I am guessing the sound crew had tin ears, from blasting out some of their high register over the years, as most sound crews do.

Sadly, most of them don't even know about it.

I guess they should just be thankful they're not dogs.
 
Did you notice what gear they were using for PA? I'm glad it worked out and hopefully you guys can get some paying festival gigs out of it.

The two sets of speakers up top on each side were JBL SRX725s. I sure did notice them, because that's what I would have gotten if I could afford them.

The subs were not JBL. I don't remember the brand, but they ran four 18's on each side.

It sure was a lot of firepower, by my estimate. They had a ton of Crown amps. Effects wise, they sure didn't run much.

As I've mentioned, we really feel we belong at the big Three Rivers Fest. It's supposed to be a Fort Wayne festival, and they keep bringing in these tribute acts from out of state, and calling them "National Acts." Then, if they bring in a local band, it's one of the same five or six bands that play all the big events in the area.

We have Down the Line, at the Embassy Theater, which is a great venue, and each band acts as a mini-tribute band that night, so you have, for example, Brother bringing you the sounds of Queen, etc. We would love to go in there as Aerosmith, Pink Floyd, (although we already have a local Pink Floyd tribute,) Led Zeppelin, Queen, or the Beatles. I don't see it happening, though, because they tend to use the same bands.

Then we have the Whammy Awards, which is sponsored by Whatzup Magazine and Wooden Nickel Records. If you're in with those guys, you will be at the Whammy Awards each year, and we're not, so we're never there.

So this year, they decided to fill Three Rivers Fest with the same bands that played at the Whammy Awards. It's an "in" kind of thing, but the good thing about the show we just played is that some of the "in" people are involved in Rock the Plaza. So you never know.

No band came out like we did. On the first downbeat of Tie Your Mother Down, I did a good jump, and our intensity level continued all through the show. We were tight, and the crowd really liked us. That should be enough, but a lot of times, it simply isn't. I tried my best to have contact with the audience, other bands, and promotional people before, during and after the show. I touched a lot more people than I like to. (high fives, semi-hugs, fist bumps, etc)

We will see.

We will see.
 
As I've mentioned, we really feel we belong at the big Three Rivers Fest. It's supposed to be a Fort Wayne festival, and they keep bringing in these tribute acts from out of state, and calling them "National Acts." Then, if they bring in a local band, it's one of the same five or six bands that play all the big events in the area.

Hi Mellowinman,

I've seen clips of your band, you do belong at the big Three Rivers Fest.

Unfortunately if Indiana is anything like WI it's not about whether or not you belong there or how good your band is. If you don't have someone on the inside it's hard to get those gigs. A lot of those gigs could be owned by a couple of agencies.

My band will be playing Summerfest for the 5th year on a major stage ( Johnson Controls World Stage ) with a decent time slot on a Friday 7/5. A Friday that most people have off. The people that do the bookings have probably never seen or heard of our band. However we have a high level inside contact. It's almost impossible for a lot of good local bands to get any kind of major stage slot at SummerFest.

Here's a sad example of how it works here, but I'm sure your well aware of this.

The kid that has a crap band and lives next door to say the CEO of Midwestern Mutual Insurance. Allot of these CEOs are on boards connected to these festivals. All it takes that CEO giving a good word for the neighbor kids crap band and their in.

Blue
 
The two sets of speakers up top on each side were JBL SRX725s. I sure did notice them, because that's what I would have gotten if I could afford them.

The subs were not JBL. I don't remember the brand, but they ran four 18's on each side.

It sure was a lot of firepower, by my estimate. They had a ton of Crown amps. Effects wise, they sure didn't run much.

As I've mentioned, we really feel we belong at the big Three Rivers Fest. It's supposed to be a Fort Wayne festival, and they keep bringing in these tribute acts from out of state, and calling them "National Acts." Then, if they bring in a local band, it's one of the same five or six bands that play all the big events in the area.

We have Down the Line, at the Embassy Theater, which is a great venue, and each band acts as a mini-tribute band that night, so you have, for example, Brother bringing you the sounds of Queen, etc. We would love to go in there as Aerosmith, Pink Floyd, (although we already have a local Pink Floyd tribute,) Led Zeppelin, Queen, or the Beatles. I don't see it happening, though, because they tend to use the same bands.

Then we have the Whammy Awards, which is sponsored by Whatzup Magazine and Wooden Nickel Records. If you're in with those guys, you will be at the Whammy Awards each year, and we're not, so we're never there.

So this year, they decided to fill Three Rivers Fest with the same bands that played at the Whammy Awards. It's an "in" kind of thing, but the good thing about the show we just played is that some of the "in" people are involved in Rock the Plaza. So you never know.

No band came out like we did. On the first downbeat of Tie Your Mother Down, I did a good jump, and our intensity level continued all through the show. We were tight, and the crowd really liked us. That should be enough, but a lot of times, it simply isn't. I tried my best to have contact with the audience, other bands, and promotional people before, during and after the show. I touched a lot more people than I like to. (high fives, semi-hugs, fist bumps, etc)

We will see.

We will see.

DUDE you got a stalker. http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f30/mellowinman-fan-club-990042/ :D :hiding:
 
Glad everything worked out for you and your band and the audience enjoyed your show. Kudos!

My band had a 3 hour opening co-headlining slot yesterday for a festival gig from 1:00 - 4:00. There was an hour scheduled between bands; however, no sound company provided. The last band was scheduled for a 4 hour show from 5:00 - 9:00, which would have been tough for us to tear down a P.A. all our gear and set up their big P.A. and a 9 piece band.

Fortunately, I am am friends with most of the bands and musicians in the area and we pulled together to make everything run smoother and faster for both bands and the festival. The other band set up their P.A. the night before and said they would run sound for us (FOR FREE) and it would help them set up and start on time. The good news is that not only did we start on time, we ended on time and we were off the stage in less than 10 minutes and the following band got set up, sound checked, and started on time. Nobody, not even the festival organizers, knew what we did between the other band leader and me to make this happen.

The plus side is that the festival organizer booked us for next year as soon as we were done.
 

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