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Finally Arrived at a Simple Question: Which Bass?

Count Bassie

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I've been playing about 47 years, and I've done a few things that have been, for me, notable. I'm a bass player when I'm being my happiest, still finding my way, and will always be a bass player.
I'm looking at being 65 in a month or so, and I'm (again, or maybe still?...) asking myself: which bass? After years of trying out, guessing, concluding and asking again, through injuries, changes in styles and pursuits, skill sets and inspirations/seeking for inspirations, yadda-yadda... the stuff we all do... Well I've got this motley collection of useable sticks. But shouldn't I have that one that's my always-go-to, my Excaliber, blah blah blah? Maybe I just haven't made my music important enough? Maybe I see it as secondary to working and "having a life", and being something that my 'peers' see as justifiable?

I've got a neck-thru Epi Thunderbird,
a 2013 Sterling Ray 34ca (because a MM is too expensive),
a fretless mod Westone,
a Chickenbacker (used to have a Ric...),
a nice Fender knock-off built and given to me by a luthier friend I've known for 20 years,
and there's a '96 Tobias Growler sitting here a friend has offered to sell me.

I could let all this go for one that came along and fit me like a custom-made glove. The Stingray sounds great, but it's 11+ lbs. The neck on the Tobias is like warm butter on Teflon... but the Tobias sits a little funny, but not the Thunderbird. The Thunderbird sits perfectly- but is a long bass and tight spaces are tough. The Fender knock-off is light as a bag without bricks in it and sounds good, but the neck is too fat front to-back, and slows my left hand down just enough to be disappointing.
Right, nothing new here, life isn't perfect and what you get good at is dealing. I'm just trying to make that field of dealing a little narrower, so I'm venting here- though all this complaining makes me feel like a fragile, fussy poster child for some brand of lithium-based med... lol.
Oh yeah- when I was given the Fender type knock-off (branded the "Two Face", behaves like a P *or* a J, not a P/J. Interesting idea and a very nice bass actually! There's a story behind it, another post maybe), I had to promise 1) to play it, and 2) that I would never sell it. I may have to sand that neck down a bit to keep my part of the bargain... and I've been looking into that.
So if you've read all this, you're either feeling it or you need a life. Lol! But there's my post for the day. I'm one step away from gathering it all up and selling/trading for something that will give me buyer's/seller's remorse for a couple months, then find I've done the right thing. It's all about the process.

No need to reply, but please do if you have something that needs to land on your keyboard... but I'm just putting this down somewhere so I can see it, and either feel silly or inspire a move. Hope this hasn't wasted your time.
 
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Such a simple solution.
Sell whatever you don't need and buy a Reverend Thundergun.


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shouldn't I have that one that's my always-go-to, my Excaliber
Some people have that, some people don't. I'm thinking: the basses you own today, you own each for a good reason. Appreciate them. I'm thinking: there's tons of people out there buying a dream bass only to realize after some time that it really isn't all that special and that they're still noodling the same old scales. I'm thinking: Excalibur, if there is such a thing for you, will find you, not the other way around. You can't force love.

Be grateful for what you have and the memories your current basses carry.
 
I have arrived at having 2 basses as the optimal number.

Like you, I have a 2014 Gibson Thunderbird , which is my main bass.

I also have a P-Bass, with a Jazz neck and a Thunderbird pickup.

I find being able to switch back and forth, quiets the internal monologue of needed something different.

Also, being active in making music keeps me less focused on gear.
 
Some people have that, some people don't. I'm thinking: the basses you own today, you own each for a good reason. Appreciate them. I'm thinking: there's tons of people out there buying a dream bass only to realize after some time that it really isn't all that special and that they're still noodling the same old scales. I'm thinking: Excalibur, if there is such a thing for you, will find you, not the other way around. You can't force love.

Be grateful for what you have and the memories your current basses carry.
Some memories are better than others, some represent parts of your life that carry regret, some that tell of constructive process... Some edify and some represent weight you don't need to carry.
Just musing.
 
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I can relate to your pondering. By my tally, I've owned 85 basses in the 50 years I've been playing (I'm 63), including some expensive "boutique" basses, as well as mid-level and cheap-o basses. It's been fun playing all those different basses but, as the numbers indicate, I've rarely kept any particular bass for very long. I've also been aware that GAS can be a substitute for practice: buying instruments can provide a false sense of musical growth. This all changed unexpectedly for me a couple of years ago when I walked into a local music store and saw a beat up Fender Precision bass on consignment. I'd owned P basses in the past, but none that I stuck with. This one was really beat up. I'm guessing its previous owner was a punk rocker. It was a "made in Mexico" Fender from 2001 and they were asking $400.00 for it. I kept coming back to the store over the course of a couple of weeks to play it, and finally offered $350.00, which was accepted. Took it home, gave it a proper setup, threw some flats on, etc. And that has turned out to be the bass that "fits me like a glove" as you say, and I expect it to be with me for the remainder of my years. Totally unexpected, but I love the sound, love the feel, love the look of it. I've got 4 other basses, but they're all optional and most will probably be eventually sold--this one is the keeper. I could go buy another expensive bass (as I've done in the past) or the "flavor of the month", but I seem to have gotten lucky and found a diamond in the rough. One thing I have decided though is I will only buy a bass now if I've sat and played it for a while first. So no more buying online (with one exception: I'll buy online from Guitar Center, because I can try it out for up to 30 days in my home and then return it to a nearby store for full refund (minus the $20.00 original shipping charge) if I decide it's not a keeper, which is usually the case.
 
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I can relate to your pondering. By my tally, I've owned 85 basses in the 50 years I've been playing (I'm 63), including some expensive "boutique" basses, as well as mid-level and cheap-o basses. It's been fun playing all those different basses but, as the numbers indicate, I've rarely kept any particular bass for very long. I've also been aware that GAS can be a substitute for practice: buying instruments can provide a false sense of musical growth. This all changed unexpectedly for me a couple of years ago when I walked into a local music store and saw a beat up Fender Precision bass on consignment. I'd owned P basses in the past, but none that I stuck with. This one was really beat up. I'm guessing its previous owner was a punk rocker. It was a "made in Mexico" Fender from 2001 and they were asking $400.00 for it. I kept coming back to the store over the course of a couple of weeks to play it, and finally offered $350.00, which was accepted. Took it home, gave it a proper setup, threw some flats on, etc. And that has turned out to be the bass that "fits me like a glove" as you say, and I expect it to be with me for the remainder of my years. Totally unexpected, but I love the sound, love the feel, love the look of it. I've got 4 other basses, but they're all optional and most will probably be eventually sold--this one is the keeper. I could go buy another expensive bass (as I've done in the past) or the "flavor of the month", but I seem to have gotten lucky and found a diamond in the rough. One thing I have decided though is I will only buy a bass now if I've sat and played it for a while first. So no more ordering and buying online (with one exception: I'll buy online from Guitar Center, because I can try it out for up to 30 days in my home and then return it to a nearby store for full refund (minus the $20.00 original shipping charge) if I decide it's not a keeper, which it usually isn't.
Yeah I can dig that, buying what you can see and actually touch. The online thing has become "eye candy" and illusory now. But the GC thing is interesting.
Anyway good story! Thanks for sharing that.
 
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The idea of trading in a bunch of basses that you're not 100% completely happy with for one that satisfies all your requirements has merit. But only if you really know what you want. That can be tough because you only really know if you've made the right choice until you've spent a considerable amount of time with an instrument.

The good thing about owning a lot of instruments and having gone through many instruments is that you build up that database.

For me, I can get a really good idea on how the reach and balance of the instrument is going to be just by looking at it.
For example: the upper horn strap pin has to align with at least the 12th fret and the bridge has to be at the butt end of the body, or else the reach will feel long and the neck will dive, especially on a strap. That means Thunderbirds and Spectors are definitely out for me.

Weight is important to me, so anything over 9.5 lbs is out and it would have to be very well balanced at that. Ideal weight is 9 lbs or less (8.5, even better!). Not always easy on a 5-string.

Scale length: unless it's fanned fret, 34" for playability even though 35" sounds better for the B-string.

String spacing: 18mm at the bridge and not too wide at the nut. Neck thickness (back to front), I am not as picky on. Not super thin, but slightly chunky is okay.

The point is: if you know all these things, then go and look for your ideal bass and then you can decide if it's worth it or not. And you do not always have to go custom to get everything you want. There are plenty of great stock basses out there too!

But, I will agree with the others: Play more, GAS less! It is surprising on how much keeping yourself busy musically will keep the GAS at bay.
 
All I can offer is this - a quote from Spock, from Star Trek's 'Amok Time': "After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing after all as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true".

I've known a lot of folks who have gone all-in on a custom 'grail' bass and ditched everything else, only to be disappointed on some level. I'd rather have options.

In the spirit of the query though, if I could suggest 'one bass to rule them all' which sounds/feels/plays great (and would be similar in a lot of ways to a StingRay), it would be a Lakland 44-02 Deluxe, or the full-on USA-made 4-94. If I was forced to only ever have one bass, it would be one of those. Thankfully, I already have the 44-02.
 
I've been down the same path many times. I've been playing for over 45 years and have accumulated a fair size bass collection, amp collection, pedal collection.. I find I play whatever bass, bass amp I am in the mood for at the time. There isn't one bass or bass amp that fits everything I want at that moment. I enjoy all my basses. Some have thicker necks, some jazz spec, some have neck dive, some not.. I find they inspire me when I play them. As for a dream bass, if I get it, it probably won't meet up with my expectations anyway. I don't think you ever find the holy grail bass, but it is journey to find it for sure. Enjoy many more years of bass playing!