After reading through lots of guides on doing setups, I finally tried to do one myself and have not found a way to get the bass setup exactly as I would like. I have had no problems with adjusting action and intonation (fairly simple) but I have always been afraid of neck adjustments since I've heard inexperience can lead to damaging the neck. I figured that I would start out practicing on my starter bass, a pbass copy, and wouldn't be too upset if I do any damage to it. The initial starting points were a straight neck and mid-height action (still higher than my preference) which gave lots of fret buzz in the lower frets. So I start off checking the neck and it was straight so I decided to add relief (0.012") and everything seemed fine. This resulted in a very high action so I lowered the saddles until they bottomed out and the action was still higher than I would like. I was reading about neck shims and figured that would help. Looking down the neck, it appeared to me that changing the neck angle would help my problem so I added a shim to angle the neck further away. Turns out it helped a little bit but added a new problem: the higher frets would start buzzing or not playing because the string is touching the next higher fret as well. Since this would be undesirable, I changed the shim to just increase the height of the neck without changing the angle. This solved the upper fret buzz problems but did not help that much in regards to getting a lower action. Even with the shim now (two folded pieces of cardboard from a chewing gum package), I still have the saddles bottomed out and the action is still higher than I would like. As it currently is, it is playable and barely has any fret buzz (which is good) but I dont really see a way to achieve lower action since the saddles are bottomed out and I have already added a neck shim. Is lower action only achievable with a straighter neck? I can live with some fret buzz with a lower action but I can't seem to figure out a way to get lower action with the neck relief set as it is (following the guides I've read). Might it just be that because this isn't a high quality bass it is more difficult to do a proper setup or am I doing something wrong? Once I'm comfortable with playing around with the setup of this bass I will try it with my other higher quality basses and hopefully have better luck with them. Thanks for any advice.