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Fitted Earplugs

I found some -9dB universal ear plugs at SamAsh for $11 that seem to work pretty well. Equally as uncomfortable as the Hearos, but your ears get used to them.

I find that 9dB is more than enough cut for almost any situation. I wear the -12/-15 (can't remember exactly) Hearos at shows, though. I'll never use ear plugs when I'm on stage, however.
 
FunkMetal-On stage when you're 4 feet from a drummer is when you need earplugs too! :eyebrow:

However, until you've tried custom fitted ones I can understand your hesitation. I'm still trying to get it through my guitarists head that the custom ones filter sound way different. He was complaining that when I have them in I don't talk loud enough... I had to point out its because I can hear everything just fine and don't need to yell and he can't because his ears are blasted/fatigued from playing. I can hear conversations across the room with my custom ones in, without them I can barely hear the person in front of me. The non custom ones, even the hearos, don't work the same. I've tried most of them.

I've already got tinitus-mine's the kind where one ear or the other will just turn down and the ringing turns up, and about 30 seconds later the ringing turns down and the outside world comes back. Guess what? It's not reversable or treatable. And I'm young. I'm hoping to still be able to hear when I'm 60 :hyper:

The main reason I went to customs is the other kind were all irritating my ears when I started wearing them 2-4 times a week for 4-5 hours at a shot. The custom kind are not uncomfortable at all, espically after wearing the other kind. My newest pair were a bit uncomfortable, doctor is sending them back for a redo (no charge) because he said they should not bother you, will be redone until they don't :). Had me talk this time while the mold was setting because he figured the talking/bass faces were causing the fit to be wrong ...

The only caveat , like i've said before, do your level check without em-you'll have trouble telling your volume. Tone is *not* affected, at least the ones I wear don't affect it. Just volume. My problem with volume and the customs is I'll think I'm plenty loud (because I can hear everything fine) but I need to go up a notch. Then again, we're not getting booted from gigs because we're too loud and we've gotten repeat gigs because we were able to keep it down (with a drummer!).

Thus far I've only used the 15s on stage. I'm getting some 25's that I can use for around the house (like power saw noise and such) or if I'm going to hear a friends group. I'll let you guys know :)
 
Custom fitted, cheap foam, or just plain cotton, take it from me...USE THEM!!!! I have had a pretty impressive (and getting worse) case of Tennitis for about 15 years, and there is no cure. Every time I see a young kid rocking out with an IPod or on stage, I just cringe. I try never to preach, but do a TB bro a favor, use the best ear protection you can afford! Thanks!
 
I decided to get some custom plugs when I started to notice the constant ringing a few years back. I think mine are made by Starkey. They cost $120 and came with -20db filters, but I got some -10db that I like better. I might have to try the Westone plugs, though.
 
Let me get this straight. You go to the doc, he/she fits you with some type of mold of your ears and you order the plugs at the doc office... similar to going to the eye doctor?

I've looked on the westone site but it doesn't give any prices. Anyone have an idea of what I'd be looking at?

thanks
 
Let me get this straight. You go to the doc, he/she fits you with some type of mold of your ears and you order the plugs at the doc office... similar to going to the eye doctor?

I've looked on the westone site but it doesn't give any prices. Anyone have an idea of what I'd be looking at?

thanks

Yes, it is a two visit process. The first visit, you will get a hearing test, and then the audiologist will create molds of your ears (kind of a strange experience to have that 'wax' type stuff poured into your ear canal... no big deal though). He/she will then send the mold off to Westone to get the ear inserts made. Mine took about two weeks (but that was quite a few years ago). At that time, you also place the order for the filters you want (you can order multiple db levels if you want.. they just pop in and out).

Then, you return for the final fitting, testing when the inserts are finished. I believe the entire thing was aobut $250 when I did it... my guess is it is a bit more now. Worth every penny.
 
Thus far I've only used the 15s on stage. I'm getting some 25's that I can use for around the house (like power saw noise and such) or if I'm going to hear a friends group. I'll let you guys know :)


It is really cool to be able to swap the filters out.

For most on stage uses, the 9db's are perfect.... very little loss of fidelity, and 9db volume reduction is quite large, but will still allow you to 'experience the impact of live performance', if that makes sense... doesn't make things sound so polite like the 15db.

The 15db still sound very good, although I hear some attenuation in the top end, which I don't like. However, these are great for 'stupid loud' situations (metal or whatever), and still sound MUCH better than just typical foam plugs or whatever.

The 25db filters result in pretty much the same thing as cramming traditional foam plugs in your ear (which are around -30db). Basically, almost everything is blocked out, and you get a very typical 'earplug' experience. Per the post above, these are great when fidelity is not an issue (running power equipment, etc.).

IMO and IME. I never use anything except the 9db's at this point, and they really are a wonderful compromise between total ear protection and 'good sound and a positive playing experience'.
 
Let me get this straight. You go to the doc, he/she fits you with some type of mold of your ears and you order the plugs at the doc office... similar to going to the eye doctor?

I've looked on the westone site but it doesn't give any prices. Anyone have an idea of what I'd be looking at?

Call up an audiologist place (look under hearing aid center) and set up an appointment-tell them you need musicians earplugs. If you can't find one, call an ear/nose/throat (otolaryngolist or something like that) specialist and ask them-my first set was made at an ear doctor that had an audiologist that came by weekly. However, don't make the mistake I did-you don't need an appointment with the ear doctor themselves to get the ear plugs, just the audiologist who does the actual plugs (oops, oh well, needed checkup anyway).

Price wise, first time I did it it was $150 (for everything). That was 4 years ago. Just did it again 2 weeks ago and it was $175 at a different place. Don't let em BS you and tell you they can't get more filters or that the filters never need changing like the first place did to me. They will eventually get sweaty /whatnot, you'll hear a drop in sound quality. You'll just need new filters, and my new guy tells me he may even be able to get em for free for me from the rep :hyper:. He just asked that I send any fellow band mates his way LOL.

Procedure wise, heck, mine was actually a walk in-I had just dropped by to inquire if they did em, they didn't have anyone at that minute and 10 minutes later I was out of there :). You sit down, they take a syringe with a 2 part epoxy stuff in it, stick a tiny piece of foam down your ear canal with a string attached (no jokes guys.....), poke the syringe in, fill you up with epoxy, pat it in place and go to next ear. 5 minutes later, they take the blob out and send it off to get em made. OH, make sure you don't sit there with your mouth closed-I did for the first mold this time and they didn't fit quite right, the second mold he had me make chewing motions and talk. He said that'll imprint on the mold and they can fit for that. A week later, you go back in , they stick em in and see if they fit.

My guy told me there's about a 20% redo ratio on any ear molds (hearing aid or earplug), so don't freak if they don't fit. Other than a feeling of something in your ear, they should not hurt or come loose or irritate. You'll know pretty much right away if they fit once you've learned how to put em in. Make sure the guy shows you how to take em out too! On my first set I struggled, ended up having to take the filters out (not cool, they're little) and then pull. On the new set, I just pushed up from the bottom till I could grab em and out they came! If they don't come with a case, get a pill box and get in the habit of putting them straight in there and putting the box somewhere safe (gig bag pocket for me).

Process of making them sounds cool, guy told me a computer scans the molds they make and then builds the plugs out of epoxy, says it's almost all computerized. They can redo by pulling up old scan and redo scan side by side and checking the problem areas (in my case, one was rubbing my lower ear and the other felt loose after 40 minutes of gigging) and adjusting those areas :).

Get em......they're painless and here, cheaper than even one visit to an ear doctor to see about your ringing that won't quit....:hyper:
 
Been wearing my 9dbs for a couple of weeks now and they are the cat's meow. I hear fairly close to normal (except when the drummer is noodling over my conversation with the guitarist), and don't have the ringing afterwards.

They are a bit pricey, but this is our hearing we are talking about.......can't really put a price tag on that.
 
Been wearing my 9dbs for a couple of weeks now and they are the cat's meow. I hear fairly close to normal (except when the drummer is noodling over my conversation with the guitarist), and don't have the ringing afterwards.

They are a bit pricey, but this is our hearing we are talking about.......can't really put a price tag on that.

Excellent! I just love my 9db Westones. If a 9db cut doesn't put your hearing in a good, safe place, then it is time to find a different band IMO!
 
I have the Westone -15db. I hate wearing ear plugs - especially the foam ones.
These are comfortable and THEY SOUND GOOD - so i tend to use them more than I would if I was still on the foam plugs. I don't wear em for shows, mostly for practice, but they are also great for after the show when the other bands are playing!!

They do take a little getting used to - putting em in is a little weird at first - they go pretty deep into your ear canal.

I say get the -15db and see how it works - if you feel like you need more, you can order the -25db filters and change em out.

It's a good investment - you only have one set of ears!!