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flange and phase redundant?

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funkalicious101

Jan 21, 2007
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#1
i recently bought a Subdecay Quasar phase shifter and althought i could not be happier with it i realized that i also like the sound of a flanger aswell. to me they sound very simmilar but with some notable differences, unfortunately my ear isnt trained enough to find out exactly what is different about them.

would i be able to get the same sounds out of my phase shifter that i could with a flange or are they different beasts all together?
 
#2
It's like delay/echo/reverb and od/distortion/fuzz.

Vibrato is used to make chorus which is a flange with no regeneration, and flange has a similar whooshy sweep to a phaser. Flange is technically a delay effect, too. Everything overlaps.

IMO they're different enough to necessitate both, but then again, I have 5 envelope filters... which all do the same thing.
 
#3
I wouldn't say redundant, but I'm sizing things up for a board, and I think when its purchased I'll have a space for either the quazar or the choralflange, but not both at once. My thoughts are that the phaser is more liquidy and filtery (of course), maybe more natural. Whereas flanging just sounds like flanging and to my ears sounds more artificial... metallic maybe. I always think it sounds like playig through a pipe.

Different beasts, but I guess it all depends on the need for more than one modulation effect. That quasar will do kind of extreme, not counting speed, but less so and in a slightly different way than a flanger. (I don't know if I even answered your question there...)
 
#4
They are completely different in terms of what they are actually doing to your signal, and the circuit used to achieve those effects. However they are both swooshy noises that (in most cases) just swoosh up and down cyclically. I can hear the difference, but I'm not sure it matters.
 
#8
the BF2 is good, the BF3 is good. get whichever one is cheapest and readily available (usually the BF2).
me? i like my FL301:

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#14
SpankyPants said:
It's like delay/echo/reverb and od/distortion/fuzz.

Vibrato is used to make chorus which is a flange with no regeneration, and flange has a similar whooshy sweep to a phaser. Flange is technically a delay effect, too. Everything overlaps.
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I thought a chorus pedal took the note your playing, knocks it slightly out of tune, and plays it over the unaffected note. Like the Digitech Whammies Detune settings.

Aren't they essentially the same thing? They sound the same...
 
#15
Analog chorus, flange, and delay are all based on the same circuit: a "bucket brigade" chip which stores voltage (in this case, your bass signal) and then releases it in a controlled way. Speeding up or slowing down the release of the voltage causes what we hear as pitch rising or falling. Typically an LFO is used to create a cyclical pattern of rising and falling.
 

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