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Flying V basses

With the majority of the body weight behind you I find it hard to see a V being neck heavy. To me the biggest issue is having the neck sticking so far out, it can be quite a reach to the first fret.

most Gibson basses have bad neck dive. The flying V bass has no upper horn to put a straplok on to. a good rule of thumb is that the strap button has to be about the 12th fret otherwise there will be bad neck dive. I hear stories of people claiming their Gibson bass does not neck dive but I have played many that do. I remember the first fenderbird that I built I was amazed at how much work it took to keep that neck from diving to the floor.
 
most Gibson basses have bad neck dive. The flying V bass has no upper horn to put a straplok on to. a good rule of thumb is that the strap button has to be about the 12th fret otherwise there will be bad neck dive. I hear stories of people claiming their Gibson bass does not neck dive but I have played many that do. I remember the first fenderbird that I built I was amazed at how much work it took to keep that neck from diving to the floor.

The lower "V" balances a flying V bass so there is no need for the traditional upper horn or the 12th fret location to provide balance. If you are putting a Fender neck on a home made V interpretation that has no basis for comparison or direct reflection on a Gibson factory designed and build specimen.
 
I love my new old used modded Gibson Episode EB-0, from ought-one, with the stylish tiny bully horns. Plays nice and great tone. But however stylish- and I adore it, the short horns combined with the too-big headstock and big tuners make it submarine crash neck dive. It's fine, I mostly play seated and forgive a lot for tone and beauty. And I've never played a Vee at all except at GC or flea markets for 5 minutes so I know nothing about Vee dive except that and what I read.
 
most Gibson basses have bad neck dive. The flying V bass has no upper horn to put a straplok on to. a good rule of thumb is that the strap button has to be about the 12th fret otherwise there will be bad neck dive. I hear stories of people claiming their Gibson bass does not neck dive but I have played many that do. I remember the first fenderbird that I built I was amazed at how much work it took to keep that neck from diving to the floor.

I had an Epiphone Korina Flying V with the strap button location exactly as you describe. No neck dive whatsoever. The only problem I had was my gut getting in the way. I stand by what I said.
 
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I had an Epiphone Korina Flying V with the strap button location exactly as you describe. No neck dive whatsoever. The only problem I had was my gut getting in the way. I stand by what I said.

I would want a strap button located like the one below right, and I realize the back button pushed farther back will help balance the bass.

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I often add a straplok extender on my Gibson style basses to prevent neck dive.

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It's frustrating to have anecdotal proof of no neck dive on your personal ax when cyber world says Gibson Epiphones are real U-boats. Because Gibson is pretty predatory on the imaginary property issue and I dislike corporate rent seeking, I'd hesitate buying a new Gibson. But I love my new old '01 EB-0 for the tone and handling and forgive the noticible neck diving since I usually need to sit down to play very long anyhow. If a Vee sounded good enough I'd play it seated too, the looks are killer.
 
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It's frustrating to have anecdotal proof of no neck dive on your personal ax when cyber world says Gibson Epiphones are real U-boats. Because Gibson is pretty predatory on the imaginary property issue and I dislike corporate rent seeking, I'd hesitate buying a new Gibson. But I love my new old '01 EB-0 for the tone and handling and forgive the noticible neck diving since I usually need to sit down to play very long anyhow. If a Vee sounded good enough I'd play it seated too, the looks are killer.

Please don't compare an EPI with a USA made Gibson as they do not use the exact same woods. I have a few Gibson basses and have used them for 50 years and never had cause to complain about neck dive though to qualify that statement, I have no long scale Gibson's though obviously over that decades have played a few here and there.
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It's frustrating to have anecdotal proof of no neck dive on your personal ax when cyber world says Gibson Epiphones are real U-boats. Because Gibson is pretty predatory on the imaginary property issue and I dislike corporate rent seeking, I'd hesitate buying a new Gibson. But I love my new old '01 EB-0 for the tone and handling and forgive the noticible neck diving since I usually need to sit down to play very long anyhow. If a Vee sounded good enough I'd play it seated too, the looks are killer.

Gibson basses have a well earned reputation of bad neck dive and there are those who are clearly neck dive deniers ... So if your Gibson bass does not have neck dive you have a real uphill battle to get others to believe what you say is true.
 
My SG bass does have a little dive , if I rest my arm on the body it’s fine . Put both arms in the air … down she goes . It’s not an issue for me . My DC Jr on the other hand is well balanced . My Epi V is Korina . I believe that was the traditional wood for them . And for a simple slab bodied bass without elaborate inlay , carving , or binding I have to say it’s very well made . It was made in the Unsung factory according to the serial number , and word is they have an excellent reputation for really good work at that factory . I don’t think an American built bass would be superior , simply more expensive . That Epi is that good .
 
I would want a strap button located like the one below right, and I realize the back button pushed farther back will help balance the bass.

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I often add a straplok extender on my Gibson style basses to prevent neck dive.

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I've seen you talk about this several times. No offense but I personally don't care for how it looks and I have found no need to modify any of my basses in this fashion.

To each their own.