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Flying With A Bass - What Do I Do?

I wasn't allowed to board with a 1x10 crate amp. I had a vinyl cover on it. I got through security. The ticket checker at the door of the plane asked me what it was. I said a small guitar amplifier. He said the magnet in the speaker could trigger electronic and/or explosive devices. Wow!
I was with my lead guitarist. I told the guy that he was allowed to check his guitar amp under the plane. The ticket guy called someone on his walkie talkie to tell them to yank my guitarist's amp off, too.
We had to leave our amps in baggage claim till we got back to Nashville.
The artist rented stuff for us at the gigs(which should've been arranged anyway), but I thought that was a little crazy.
If I would've just put my amp in a small flight case and checked it down under, none of that would've happened.

BTW I've upgraded my travel amp to a Workingman 10 :)

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You should have no problem. Only suggestion is to loosen the strings on the bass before taking it on your flight.

Explanation please! In my view this is exactly what NOT to do when flying your bass.

Lonnybass

Explanation:

Many years ago, I flew from L.A. to Phoenix and didn't loosen the strings on the bass before my flight took off. Mind you, I took the bass on the plane with me in a gig bag. It was stored in a side compartment.

Alas, upon arrival I took my bass with me and didn't notice until I got to our lodging facilities that the nut was broken. The change in cabin pressure must have caused the nut to break I guess. I ended up playing with a broken nut the entire gig...read: gig sucked!

Ever since then, I loosen the strings on my bass or guitar when traveling with it. Never had any such problems since.

Cheers!
 
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I will have to fly back from NYC to Madrid with two basses in a doublegig bag, all worth 7500+$ ... so I tried the ATA golf case but it'd not fit the doublegig bag, so I went to the ATA double golf clubs case from SKB... Outside dimensions: 52" x 15" x 22" , 30 pounds on his own... will I need to ship as oversize ? Any better option you might have?

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In 1991-92 I toured as bassist for Rick Derringer. We did a LOT of driving, and some flying as well. One time, we had a gig in Columbia, Missouri. A TWA Lockheed L-1011 from N.Y. to St. Louis was the first part, then a BAE Jetstream 31 from Lambert to Columbia regional, a short flight. The TWA (Travelling With ********) people were HIGHLY uncooperative, I had to check my Reunion Blues gig bag with my custom made bass in it. The L-1011, a jumbo jet, strangely had relatively small overhead compartments. All airlines and their varied equipment do NOT have the same size overheads! When we got to baggage claim, the upper fob and strap on my gig bag were ripped off. They broke a hardshell case on a previous flight, as well. Thankfully, the bass was o.k. this time. Then, we then boarded the connecting flight. The Jetstream 31 is a small commuter plane with limited space, and a 'speedpack' bubble under the fuselage for luggage. I managed to sneak on and fit my bass in a rear closet. Rick then had a B.C. Rich 'Stealth' guitar specially made for him. The guitar was in a standard hardshell case, not a flight case. I asked Rick about that, and he said it was "fine". I was skeptical. The very bumpy flight ended in Columbia, at a small terminal, and I stood inside and through the plate glass window, viewed the ramp guys unload the baggage from the speedpack into a small pickup truck. They FLUNG the hardshell into the bed, and proceeded to unload ALL the remaining baggage on TOP of the guitar case, and it seemed like to me, that that was routine for them. His guitar did not sustain any damage, amazingly.
I have also encountered hostility towards musicians travelling with instruments by United airlines and others too numerous to mention. Many of the low paid baggage handlers are angry, and have to work hard in lousy conditions. This anger may be vented in a "Money For Nothing" like hatred towards a professional musician, something glamourous and of which they are in envy. I now own an SKB Bass Safe, and it has proved itself on several flights. BUY flight worthy protection for your instrument, wether you carry it on, or check it...you'll be better off safe than sorry, I know. Your experience may vary, hopefully it'll be pleasant.
 
In 1991-92 I toured as bassist for Rick Derringer. We did a LOT of driving, and some flying as well. One time, we had a gig in Columbia, Missouri. A TWA Lockheed L-1011 from N.Y. to St. Louis was the first part, then a BAE Jetstream 31 from Lambert to Columbia regional, a short flight. The TWA (Travelling With ********) people were HIGHLY uncooperative, I had to check my Reunion Blues gig bag with my custom made bass in it. The L-1011, a jumbo jet, strangely had relatively small overhead compartments. All airlines and their varied equipment do NOT have the same size overheads! When we got to baggage claim, the upper fob and strap on my gig bag were ripped off. They broke a hardshell case on a previous flight, as well. Thankfully, the bass was o.k. this time. Then, we then boarded the connecting flight. The Jetstream 31 is a small commuter plane with limited space, and a 'speedpack' bubble under the fuselage for luggage. I managed to sneak on and fit my bass in a rear closet. Rick then had a B.C. Rich 'Stealth' guitar specially made for him. The guitar was in a standard hardshell case, not a flight case. I asked Rick about that, and he said it was "fine". I was skeptical. The very bumpy flight ended in Columbia, at a small terminal, and I stood inside and through the plate glass window, viewed the ramp guys unload the baggage from the speedpack into a small pickup truck. They FLUNG the hardshell into the bed, and proceeded to unload ALL the remaining baggage on TOP of the guitar case, and it seemed like to me, that that was routine for them. His guitar did not sustain any damage, amazingly.
I have also encountered hostility towards musicians travelling with instruments by United airlines and others too numerous to mention. Many of the low paid baggage handlers are angry, and have to work hard in lousy conditions. This anger may be vented in a "Money For Nothing" like hatred towards a professional musician, something glamourous and of which they are in envy. I now own an SKB Bass Safe, and it has proved itself on several flights. BUY flight worthy protection for your instrument, wether you carry it on, or check it...you'll be better off safe than sorry, I know. Your experience may vary, hopefully it'll be pleasant.

Great post.
 
I was just asked to cover some shows on the West Coast next weekend, and this thread could not be any more timely. I own an ATA flight case, but it only fits my Pedulla and the interior padding can not be changed. The PentaBuzz would not be my first choice for this gig. After reading this whole thread, I decided the SKB Bass Safe was the way to go. I searched on eBay and craiglist and found one about 18 miles from my house. $70.00 cash and it was mine.

I have two different double gig bags and I have figured out that I can fit the Moradian double bag in the bass safe. The Undercover double would not fit. I decided I'm taking my Quantum5 and my recently delivered Dingwall AB II for this gig. Thanks for all of the helpful info in this post. I'll give a full report after the trip to advise on how the SKB fares.
 
Explanation:

Many years ago, I flew from L.A. to Phoenix and didn't loosen the strings on the bass before my flight took off. Mind you, I took the bass on the plane with me in a gig bag. It was stored in a side compartment.

Alas, upon arrival I took my bass with me and didn't notice until I got to our lodging facilities that the nut was broken. The change in cabin pressure must have caused the nut to break I guess. I ended up playing with a broken nut the entire gig...read: gig sucked!

Ever since then, I loosen the strings on my bass or guitar when traveling with it. Never had any such problems since.

Cheers!

Interesting. Although I highly doubt that the nut was broken as a result of the change in cabin pressure. Our instruments are much more likely to be affected as a result of temperature and humidity changes than pressure changes. If this was such a problem, every school band trip to Disney World would be accompanied by about 300 visits to the orthodontist as a result of kids' braces popping off in-flight.

And don't forget, your neck is held in line as a result of the opposing forces of the truss rod AND strings working together. Just loosening the strings will merely lead to neck bow - which will simply throw your set up out of whack (best case scenario)...or create serious neck warping (worst case).

To me, loosening the strings is really more bass voodoo than anything else. Unless your bass is made out of a thin aluminum shell into which air is vacuum-blasted - like an airplane fuselage - don't sweat it. Loosening the strings or taking them off will only lead to more problems than it is worth. Your bass can handle it. Temperature and humidity are a different story.

Lonnybass
 
Interesting. Although I highly doubt that the nut was broken as a result of the change in cabin pressure. Our instruments are much more likely to be affected as a result of temperature and humidity changes than pressure changes. If this was such a problem, every school band trip to Disney World would be accompanied by about 300 visits to the orthodontist as a result of kids' braces popping off in-flight.

And don't forget, your neck is held in line as a result of the opposing forces of the truss rod AND strings working together. Just loosening the strings will merely lead to neck bow - which will simply throw your set up out of whack (best case scenario)...or create serious neck warping (worst case).

To me, loosening the strings is really more bass voodoo than anything else. Unless your bass is made out of a thin aluminum shell into which air is vacuum-blasted - like an airplane fuselage - don't sweat it. Loosening the strings or taking them off will only lead to more problems than it is worth. Your bass can handle it. Temperature and humidity are a different story.

Lonnybass


Is it better to separate the neck and body instead? I´m planing on doing this on a transatlantic trip.
 
Is it better to separate the neck and body instead? I´m planing on doing this on a transatlantic trip.

Are you separating them for a specific reason? Other than simply not having enough room for the instrument to travel in one piece, there's no reason I can think of to take the neck off. Why risk stripping out your neck screw holes, throwing your setup out of whack and potentially not being able to get the neck back into the body pocket because the woods expanded or compressed ever so slightly?

Lonnybass
 
Are you separating them for a specific reason? Other than simply not having enough room for the instrument to travel in one piece, there's no reason I can think of to take the neck off. Why risk stripping out your neck screw holes, throwing your setup out of whack and potentially not being able to get the neck back into the body pocket because the woods expanded or compressed ever so slightly?

Lonnybass

Yeah, thats the reason. Put the parts in a baggage and GATE check it.
 
Are you separating them for a specific reason? Other than simply not having enough room for the instrument to travel in one piece, there's no reason I can think of to take the neck off. Why risk stripping out your neck screw holes, throwing your setup out of whack and potentially not being able to get the neck back into the body pocket because the woods expanded or compressed ever so slightly?

Lonnybass

You're not afraid of taking apart and reassembling a bass; you're a Warmoth guy for Pete's sake!

Taking the neck off for travel is a valid option. Not a big deal.
 
Coffin case...Black Cross model...I have 2 of them..I unscrewed the neck brake/holding compartment.Took it out completely and got some foam and fitted it to the bass(you can use a small blanket too to keep it padded)And use the braces to keep the bass from moving by wedging them back above the neck and below the body.You have to cut the compartment flap off first.It takes 5 minutes to unscrew and remove the flap..I did that for a while and it worked great!!It sounds ghetto but it really does works amazingly well. I've flown with it and toured with it. It's good stuff really.

Generally the bigger it is the harder it is for the baggage tosser to toss..Or..You can Gaffer tape 2 cases together(I do it on the ends and the middle) and check it as 1 peice as long as it's under 50 pounds. I've done that for years before I got the Coffin Black Cross cases...Only had one incident with taping them..Air France, ooold gibson case..The bass was fine.The case..Not so much.I take half the blame..lol.

I hope this helps a little.The world is not making it easy for us musicians to travel.
Maybe I'll go to talkviolin.com for a while and see how they live.At least we don't have to worry about leaving a 2 million dollar violin in a cab..Doh!!

Good luck kids.
 
:) I laughed at the talkviolin.com thing... my second preferred instrument is the trumpet although I don't know how to play it... that would be an easy move each flight!

I wanted to share with you the experience I just came from as far as travelling with basses are concerned. I traveled on a direct flight from JFK to Madrid with 2 very nice basses. I had them in their respective gig bag and then into a SKB ATA approved double golf bag hardcase. I packed the gigbags carefully using the "air cushions" (those big bubbles of plastic with air inside). At the airport check-in they only asked me what was inside, I told the truth of course and requested to film wrap it after the TSA check. They didn't film wrap it but they did allow me to lock the case after the TSA check, a lovely aiport attendant walked a long way to get to the TSA check point, the guy made a quick inspection and I was able to then lock it (the TSA "stamped" the baggage tag with an "approved"). That was important for me since the case didn't have the TSA approved locks. Also, I didn't have to pay any oversize fee but I was making a good show of my gold member card ... so not sure if it'd be always like this

At Madrid airport I collected the SKB case on the special item carousel. Not even a scratch on the basses although the case was showing some signs of the travel (purely superficial, but the case did do a good job).

Well, net, it went all very well and I was very happy about having bought the case. The only drawback is that the case doensn't fit any car trunk but it will be easily accomodated onto the back seats.
 
Back in May 2001, I received my custom built bass ($3600), and took it with me from Honolulu to Louisville, Ky to visit my sister. I carried it on board in a gig bag, and put it in the overhead. I was understandably nervous about traveling and carrying it, but didn't want to risk it as a check-in item. I was also transferring three times before getting to Louisville, with each plane becoming smaller the closer I got to my destination.

Didn't have a problem with bringing my bass onboard, but on the first leg, as I got up to get my bass out of the overhead, a male passenger opened the overhead first, swung my bass out of the way to get his bag, and there was my bass, sticking out of the overhead and into the isle, wedged between the top of the bin and another piece of luggage, suspended only by the top one-quarter of the neck! It was obvious (to me) that it was clearly an instrument case, but that moron had only his bag in mind. Fortunately, it survived. The last leg was a small commuter from O'hare, with no overheads, so my bass got checked at the airplane door, put in last, brought out first and put in my hand, so no problem there.

After 911, I bought a Spirit five string Steiny copy to travel with, and had no problems with it through five trips in 2005. Although the case made it look like I was carrying a small rifle, I had no problems until 2006, when a TSA agent at the Honolulu airport decided that the three small allen wrenches that had come with the bass, and had been in the bag through all of my previous trips, could be used as weapons, and confiscated them.

Pointing out to him that they had been in the case since I bought the bass did no good, and as you all may know, nothing they take from you can be checked in and retrieved later when you return - whatever they take from you gets tossed in the garbage. I learned to put anything pointy or weapon-like in my check-in bag after that. (It's strange to me that you can carry a pen or pencil on board, which I think they would make a much better weapon than a small allen wrench, but since when has logic ever been associated with TSA reasoning....).

I know I'm getting a little wordy here, but I wanted to point out one of the underlying currents of this thread: that there is no standard in the airline industry when it comes to carry-on. And it starts right at the metal detectors with the TSA agents. It truly is up to the whims of the individual at any given point, right up to the crew in the plane.

Although acting sincere and turning on the charm may work in most cases, there will always be that one person with a heart of stone that will probably be even more turned off by your personable attempts, because they are most likely jealous of your good nature, as they don't have those skills, hate their job, are tired of serving the public, etc, etc.

So to recap, there are three common options at this point:

1) ship your bass to your destination
2) carry it on
3) enclose it in a sturdy container, such as an ATA case, golf case, etc.

You have to determine what will ultimately give you the most piece of mind, however, if it's an expensive bass you want to travel with, don't let money influence your decision. Spend whatever it takes to make your bass safe, and ensure it arrives in one piece.

Good Luck in your decision, let us know which way you went, and what the outcome was... I hope you have nothing eventful to report, and you and your bass had a great time in sunny Florida! :cool:
 
haven't read this thread at all, but I just flew my new MIA Jazz back from the states today (including a missed connecting flight - American are very good at luggage stuff!)

anyway, make sure you have a snug flight case with a lock on it. then you check it into the hold - mine survived. Make sure you have an identifying mark on the case, and make sure to tell them that it's fragile!