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Fm7?

Discussion in 'General Instruction [BG]' started by Sonorous, Nov 11, 2004.


  1. Sonorous

    Sonorous

    Oct 1, 2003
    Denton, TX
    What is this chord? F major 7th? F minor 7th? What does that mean?

    I can figure out what notes are in a major and a minor chord, but what does the 7 mean?
     
  2. Lyle Caldwell

    Lyle Caldwell

    Sep 7, 2004
    Memphis
    F minor 7

    F Ab C Eb

    (edited to minimize confusion)
     
  3. The chord is a F minor 7
    The 7 is the seventh note of the chord this case ( Eb )
     
  4. Blackbird

    Blackbird Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2000
    California
    I'd call that an F7, as the minor seventh is implied.

    I think it's F Ab C Eb., especially if the following chord is a Bb7 resolving to an Eb.
     
  5. Lyle Caldwell

    Lyle Caldwell

    Sep 7, 2004
    Memphis
    Absolutely correct. A very unfortunate typo on my part.

    F Ab C Eb
     
  6. Dynna

    Dynna

    Oct 23, 2004
    In the case of a minor chord(m7), you use a flat 7(in F that's Eb). With a major seven chord(M7) you use the natural 7(in F that's E). With a seventh chord(F7, or dom7), it's a major chord, but with a flat seven.
     
  7. Sonorous

    Sonorous

    Oct 1, 2003
    Denton, TX
    Cool. Thanks guys, I've got it now.
     
  8. Get all that classical music theory out of your system. :)
     
  9. Blackbird

    Blackbird Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2000
    California

    And replace it with what? :confused:
     
  10. Whafrodamus

    Whafrodamus

    Oct 29, 2003
    Andover, MA
    Cookies or furniture.
     
  11. Hmm, I figured the flat 7 was implied since it's a minor scale. Does putting it there have to do with the chord, and what notes should be accentuated by them or something? Or does minor only imply the 3 and the 7 must be marked separately?
     
  12. Jazzin'

    Jazzin' ...Bluesin' and Funkin'

    exactly, Fm7 has the Ab, F7 has an A(Natural). The difference between those 2 chords is only the 3rd.
     
  13. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member


    Actually, I'd never seen anybody write Fm7 in classical theory - although it comes up very frequently in Jazz!! ;)
     
  14. dlloyd

    dlloyd zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Apr 21, 2004
    Scotland
    If it says m7, it means a minor 3rd and a minor (flat) 7.

    The 7 is only marked separately if it's a major (natural) 7. In which case the chord would have been Fm maj7.
     
  15. Sonorous

    Sonorous

    Oct 1, 2003
    Denton, TX
    I needed to know so I could figure some stuff out on the Santana song "Europa"