# Fm7?

Discussion in 'General Instruction [BG]' started by Sonorous, Nov 11, 2004.

1. ### Sonorous

Oct 1, 2003
Denton, TX
What is this chord? F major 7th? F minor 7th? What does that mean?

I can figure out what notes are in a major and a minor chord, but what does the 7 mean?

2. ### Lyle Caldwell

Sep 7, 2004
Memphis
F minor 7

F Ab C Eb

(edited to minimize confusion)

3. ### Jace The Bass

Jul 26, 2004
Wellington New Zealand
The chord is a F minor 7
The 7 is the seventh note of the chord this case ( Eb )

4. ### BlackbirdModeratorSupporting Member

Mar 18, 2000
California
I'd call that an F7, as the minor seventh is implied.

I think it's F Ab C Eb., especially if the following chord is a Bb7 resolving to an Eb.

5. ### Lyle Caldwell

Sep 7, 2004
Memphis
Absolutely correct. A very unfortunate typo on my part.

F Ab C Eb

6. ### Dynna

Oct 23, 2004
In the case of a minor chord(m7), you use a flat 7(in F that's Eb). With a major seven chord(M7) you use the natural 7(in F that's E). With a seventh chord(F7, or dom7), it's a major chord, but with a flat seven.

7. ### Sonorous

Oct 1, 2003
Denton, TX
Cool. Thanks guys, I've got it now.

8. ### geoffkhan

Get all that classical music theory out of your system.

9. ### BlackbirdModeratorSupporting Member

Mar 18, 2000
California

And replace it with what?

Oct 29, 2003
Andover, MA

11. ### jenderfazz

Apr 17, 2003
Hmm, I figured the flat 7 was implied since it's a minor scale. Does putting it there have to do with the chord, and what notes should be accentuated by them or something? Or does minor only imply the 3 and the 7 must be marked separately?

12. ### Jazzin'...Bluesin' and Funkin'

exactly, Fm7 has the Ab, F7 has an A(Natural). The difference between those 2 chords is only the 3rd.

13. ### Bruce LindfieldUnprofessional TalkBass ContributorGold Supporting Member

Actually, I'd never seen anybody write Fm7 in classical theory - although it comes up very frequently in Jazz!!

14. ### dlloydzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Apr 21, 2004
Scotland
If it says m7, it means a minor 3rd and a minor (flat) 7.

The 7 is only marked separately if it's a major (natural) 7. In which case the chord would have been Fm maj7.

15. ### Sonorous

Oct 1, 2003
Denton, TX
I needed to know so I could figure some stuff out on the Santana song "Europa"