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Fodera Club Part V

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I cannot answer an exact date...the records for that are just not that great. What I can tell you is the reason...we went over to a newer designed Truss Rod that functioned better and made having two of them superfluous...we got the stability and functionality that we needed from only one...

cnltb said:
...and why?
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Just Thumpin' said:
I cannot answer an exact date...the records for that are just not that great. What I can tell you is the reason...we went over to a newer designed Truss Rod that functioned better and made having two of them superfluous...we got the stability and functionality that we needed from only one...
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I misunderstood.
I thought of a double actio truss rod and not of two rods...:)
Sorry!

Are double action rods used in foderas, and if not, where do fodera see the benefits of a singleaction design?
 
#463
Not sure what you mean by "double action", but the Fodera truss rod is reversable. If the neck back-bows, the rod can be pulled out, flipped over, and reinstalled VERY easily, so that tightening it pulls the neck up instead of flattening it. The rod pulls against itself instead of being anchored in the neck and pulling against that.
 
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Lennard III. said:
Does anybody maybe know the actual owner of this Bass ???

The old Fodera page where the Bass was shown (a pic with the owner and Joey - both holding BeezElites) says Booker T. Smith - but I can't find nothing on the web about him.

I wanna buy it - if I could get the chance ;)

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That was a smoking bass. We resold it for the original owner a few years back. It was a really beautiful bass.
 
#468
A couple of more points related to the Fodera Truss Rod...

1. We have a detailed explanation about how our truss rod is reversible (along with other maintenance tips) here:

http://www.fodera.com/PublicPages/CaringyourFodera.aspx

2. There is more to the story about the development of the single truss rod for 6 string basses. Anthony Jackson can be credited with realizing that the Fodera 6 string necks did not require two truss rods to remain stable...when Anthony's second (and last) double cutaway Fodera was still his primary instrument, he realized that one of his two truss rods was completely loose. He pulled it out and discovered that the neck was still stable and adjusted fine with only one truss rod.

When the Presentation was being conceived, it was spec'd with only one of the new style rods (as per Anthony). This was in 1986...it walso became the standard for all Fodera 6-strings.
 
#470
That's surprising that those single-direction truss rods are used (like cnltb, I'm also used to seeing truss rods that can be adjusted in either direction being called dual or double action). Is there a reason the guys prefer to use the reversible rod rather than a dual action one Jason?
 
#474
I am not certain that I am getting the point across correctly...our truss rod does let you adjust the neck in either direction. 95% of the time the truss rod remains in one or the other position within the neck. It can easily turned over in less that one minute if the need exists to adjust the neck in the opposite direction.

Did everyone that still has questions review the download on our website that explains how our truss rod works?

Again, I am really not sure of what is being asked...our truss rods are designed to adjust the truss rod in either direction (i.e. to add relief to the neck OR take it away) and the range of the adjustments that can be made is huge...so much so that I have never personally experienced one of our necks in the shop that could not have the relief adjusted properly...

spade2you said:
I believe the standard term is double expanding. Double action usually applies to pistols. ;)

Nonetheless, I'm surprised that Fodera isn't using them given the use of exotic fingerboards.
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Just Thumpin' said:
I am not certain that I am getting the point across correctly...our truss rod does let you adjust the neck in either direction. 95% of the time the truss rod remains in one or the other position within the neck. It can easily turned over in less that one minute if the need exists to adjust the neck in the opposite direction.

Did everyone that still has questions review the download on our website that explains how our truss rod works?

Again, I am really not sure of what is being asked...our truss rods are designed to adjust the truss rod in either direction (i.e. to add relief to the neck OR take it away) and the range of the adjustments that can be made is huge...so much so that I have never personally experienced one of our necks in the shop that could not have the relief adjusted properly...
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I was wondering if one can adjust the neck both ways without having to take out the truss rod.:)
 
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cnltb said:
I was wondering if one can adjust the neck both ways without having to take out the truss rod.:)
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My recollection (although I may be wrong) is that a truss rod that is "double action" must be anchored to the bass at one end (ie the non-adjustment end). Warwicks I believe had this system. The problem with using this sort of truss rod is that if it breaks its a fairly painful task to install a new truss rod. OTOH using a regular trussrod that can be swapped over means taht if the trussrod breaks is can simply be swaped out with a new one without potentially having to remove the fingerboard.
 
#477
Of, course...to a point. However, if you go beyond that point than you need to flip the rod.

I own 11 Foderas presently...10 of them have the truss rod in the "typical" position (i.e. nut at the bottom of the slot) and can be adjusted perfectly throughout the year without removing the truss rod. One of them has needed to have the truss rod flipped twice per year (spring and fall). Then within each of those 6 month periods all adjustments can be made with the rod in that position...

However, the one that needs to have its rod flipped was only built in 2009, so it will likely settle in to one rod position or the other eventually...either way it is actually my favorite Fodera so the extra 4 minutes of work a year is well worth it! LOL...

cnltb said:
I was wondering if one can adjust the neck both ways without having to take out the truss rod.:)
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Just Thumpin' said:
Of, course...to a point. However, if you go beyond that point than you need to flip the rod.

I own 11 Foderas presently...10 of them have the truss rod in the "typical" position (i.e. nut at the bottom of the slot) and can be adjusted perfectly throughout the year without removing the truss rod. One of them has needed to have the truss rod flipped twice per year (spring and fall). Then within each of those 6 month periods all adjustments can be made with the rod in that position...

However, the one that needs to have its rod flipped was only built in 2009, so it will likely settle in to one rod position or the other eventually...either way it is actually my favorite Fodera so the extra 4 minutes of work a year is well worth it! LOL...
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Jason! You came clean on how many Foderas you own. Lets hope your wife isn't reading.
 
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