Anyone who owns (past or present) a Barefaced Big Twin T cabinet (or any other Barefaced for that matter) -- have you had any issues, in particular, blown speakers? I bought mine new in 2013 and have blown (separately) both 12" speakers, plus the tweeter. Fortunately the 12s were repairable and I replaced the tweeter. I've been back and forth with Alex about this, and all my QSC 1802PLX power amp settings are set as he recommends. He surmises I'm driving the low frequencies too hard, but I disagree. My EQ is well balanced (okay, I like a kick ass low end and own a 5-string) and I've never blown any speakers in all the seven or eight previous bass rigs I've owned, and they were no match for this one.
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? for Barefaced cab owners
- Thread starter st stephen
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I've beaten the crap out of my Barefaced cabs and they've been rock solid.
You "kick ass" and a play a 5 string? And you're blowing drivers?
So far I've not heard of anyone else blowing BF drivers. I'd get an HPF.
So far I've not heard of anyone else blowing BF drivers. I'd get an HPF.
Interesting, Alex said they've only had a few blown 12's since they came out with them. They could be counted on one hand I think he said.
Definitely time for an HPF.
Definitely time for an HPF.
I've abused the heck out of my super twin using octaves, 5 strings, etc, and never had an issue with my super twin
The 1802PLX is a general purpose PA amp. It probably has a built-in HPF, but may have a very low cutoff…?
If so, you might be delivering lots of sub-lows you can't even hear to your cabinets. In which case, yeah get an HPF.
@agedhorse ???
If so, you might be delivering lots of sub-lows you can't even hear to your cabinets. In which case, yeah get an HPF.
@agedhorse ???
Thanks Silky! I would think 33Hz might be lower than you'd need/want for a bass rig. Unless you have defeated the amp's HPF, in which case turn it on immediately!
I have a 2021 Barefaced Big Twin 3. I cannot imagine this thing getting so loud that I risk "blowing" either a woofer or tweeter without also risking hearing impairment.
Understand, these cabinets -- while wonderfully well-engineered and well-built -- are not magical. Push them past their reasonable limits and damage will ensue.
Understand, these cabinets -- while wonderfully well-engineered and well-built -- are not magical. Push them past their reasonable limits and damage will ensue.
I run a PLX3602 (a cab-killer of an amp) with the amp's HPF engaged, but also have a Broughton HPF pedal in the chain.
The fact that it can be switched on and off is critical. My old 1602 came with it switched on by default and I never changed it.
EVERY - - I repeat - - EVERY professional speaker system whether designed for bass, guitar, or general sound reinforcement use needs high-pass filtering. No matter who makes it, how much it costs, how much power it is designed to handle, etc.
That is nothing more than stating what's true. If you push a speaker below its tuning frequency, the woofer cones will experience rapidly increasing motion and substantially lower power handling.
St Stephen - I bet your problem was caused by having too low (or none) a high-pass frequency, plus possibly overpowering the speaker. Did you have on the clip limiter? Of course, the clip limiter isn't bullet-proof, but should help.
The PLX amp is rated at 330 watts per channel at 8 ohms; 575 watts at 4 ohms. Were you running the amp bridged mono?
That is nothing more than stating what's true. If you push a speaker below its tuning frequency, the woofer cones will experience rapidly increasing motion and substantially lower power handling.
St Stephen - I bet your problem was caused by having too low (or none) a high-pass frequency, plus possibly overpowering the speaker. Did you have on the clip limiter? Of course, the clip limiter isn't bullet-proof, but should help.
The PLX amp is rated at 330 watts per channel at 8 ohms; 575 watts at 4 ohms. Were you running the amp bridged mono?
If you want one then get it! I doubt seriously that you'll learn anything on TB that will sway you one way or another.
I love everything to be clear as thunder - Bass, Amp, Cab, that's why I think Barefaced is speaking my language
