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Front vs rear ported cab for outdoor gigs

#22
JAC77 said:
I almost discounted the 410 stack because being sealed, they don’t go very low and I was concerned about sounding thin 20 feet out. I Appreciate the response
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HolmeBass said:
Probably the 2 x 410 but sealed cabinets can be much less efficient than ported ones.
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And yet...

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agedhorse said:
The 410's being stock are what I would trust over the 212 which are essentially "speakers stuffed into a random box".
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Not exactly “speakers stuffed into a random box”. I know how to interpret t-s parameters and I retuned the ports. That being said, I don’t always adhere to the rules in that regard. Some of my favorite cabs contradict the formula, so I always trust my ear and leave it at that. I also don’t always assume that commercial cabinet manufacturers do anything more than ‘stuff a random speaker into a box’. Sometimes it’s pretty obvious they take into consideration what drivers that have a surplus of and they miraculously fit into a box that keeps up with the form factor of the other cabinets in there line-up for easy stacking lol.
 
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JAC77 said:
Not exactly “speakers stuffed into a random box”. I know how to interpret t-s parameters and I retuned the ports. That being said, I don’t always adhere to the rules in that regard. Some of my favorite cabs contradict the formula, so I always trust my ear and leave it at that. I also don’t always assume that commercial cabinet manufacturers do anything more than ‘stuff a random speaker into a box’. Sometimes it’s pretty obvious they take into consideration what drivers that have a surplus of and they miraculously fit into a box that keeps up with the form factor of the other cabinets in there line-up for easy stacking lol.
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So were you asking a question in your original post, or do you already know the answer and just seeking confirmation?

Sorry for trying to help.
 
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agedhorse said:
So were you asking a question in your original post, or do you already know the answer and just seeking confirmation?

Sorry for trying to help.
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I appreciate the reply, I just meant that your suggestion seemed to be based on whether or not a cab was credibly designed or not, and my original question was more aimed at the affect of port location in an outdoor gig.
 
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JAC77 said:
I appreciate the reply, I just meant that your suggestion seemed to be based on whether or not a cab was credibly designed or not, and my original question was more aimed at the affect of port location in an outdoor gig.
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That was not your original question. Re-read post #1 and you will see why.
 
#32
JAC77 said:
“Front vs rear ported cab for outdoor gigs” - thread title…
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Which, after reading your opening post, was literally the least important thing in choosing which cabs to use.

You got good advice, no need to argue with those who offered good advice because everything wasn't delicately worded such that it offended your sensibilities. :)
 
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Marko 1 said:
Which, after reading your opening post, was literally the least important thing in choosing which cabs to use.

You got good advice, no need to argue with those who offered good advice because everything wasn't perfectly worded such that it offended your sensibilities. :)
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Not offended in the least, I’m trying to steer the convo towards pros and cons of front and rear ports. Didn’t mean to seem argumentative. Thanks for the reply
 
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JAC77 said:
spreading cabinets out generally isn’t a great idea, it can create phasing issues and ‘dead spots’ on stage.
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If you have bigger stage you are going to have dead spot with single stack, and spreadin two 410 expands sound into other side of the state too. In that size of state I would take 2x410 per side anyway.

Same thing with 410 comb filtering. In theory it is there but practically you have way bigger challenges in live stage.
 
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HolmeBass said:
I am one of the few who have never liked the fridge. At first I thought it was the SVT - but found out it’s actually sealed 810 that I do not get along with.
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I think most of the "magic" of Ampeg's iconic amps B15, SVT, comes from the cabinets and is less about the amp head itself. If you plug those heads into different cabinets they sound like any other bass amp. Yet if you plug any other amp into those iconic cabs they kinda sound like a B-15 or SVT.

:)
 
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paskisti said:
If you have bigger stage you are going to have dead spot with single stack, and spreadin two 410 expands sound into other side of the state too. In that size of state I would take 2x410 per side anyway.

Same thing with 410 comb filtering. In theory it is there but practically you have way bigger challenges in live stage.
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But you loose your coupling of the two cabinets together. If you spread them out, you will be heard on stage fine but the overall bass impact to the audience could be lost.
 
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DJ Bebop said:
But you loose your coupling of the two cabinets together. If you spread them out, you will be heard on stage fine but the overall bass impact to the audience could be lost.
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It’s all about balancing the various needs. Different configurations for different needs.
 
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