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Fuzzes and DI. Keys for a nice marriage

IAGOLORENZ

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Jul 23, 2011
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Hi Justin

I think you're the most indicate player/producer in the world to answer those questions, since you're fuzzaholic :)

Sometimes, when i'm using fuzzes in my chain, i notice some issues with clean DI's. Since a clean DI is a must in order to keep clarity and tight low end on a very distorted sound, the thing can become a problem.
Usually some fuzzes, due impedance issues i guess, are not sounding very well after DI or after the thru. The original gorgeous tone becomes weird (i have the same problem when i try to reamp a clean DI) On that scenario, if i want to maintain the DI, i need to put the fuzz before the DI, but this way i loose the clean tone which is certainly problematic as well...

Another problem is related to leakage between channels, i mean when i have a DI, say an Avalon and i run a fuzz factory through the thru to the amp i have some problems of bleeding between channels and the DI clean sounds noticeable worse and lower than the traditional scenario without pedal.

Did you ever had some similar problems? Maybe yes, since it seems to be a very frequent problem dealing with some fuzz designs.
In affirmative case, how do you deal with this kind of issues when you're recording or reamping bass or guitars? I've been thinking to get some variable impedance adaptor or something like that, but i don't know for sure how to address it...

Thanks in advance Justin!
 
I know you asked Justin and I'm not trying to poop on your rapport time with him :D but are you cutting tweeter frequencies in your fuzz DI line? Anything past 5 khz tends to sound IMHO really bad with distortion, and it's not good for tweeters, either. Distortion sends a lot of energy to those high frequencies, which can cause tweeters to overload and blow if you're not careful. But once you cut those highs, it sounds more like a tweeterless bass cab, and you lose that spitty high end and it smooths out the sound. This is why many folks will mic a tweeterless bass cab along with the clean DI sound if they like to have distortion going on. But you can run distortion in DI lines and have it sound good as long as you cut those highs.

Can't answer your other question about leakage since it's never happened to me. Hopefully Justin or someone can. Good luck with it.
 
No, maybe i didn't express myself very well (my English is not very good!) I'm not speaking about a line fuzz sound (which is a particular effect, sometimes desirable and sometimes not) I mean that the sound of the fuzz to the amp (using the DI thru) isn't that good as if i plug the fuzz direct to the amp.

I think it's related to impedance issues. Some fuzzes, mostly which are germanium based, are very picky with the order of pedals, buffered pedals in front etc... I don't have that kind of problems with regular distortion or with the classic combination of DI+Amp. So i'm wondering about how Justin is dealing with that problem since he is using tons of fuzz pedals and he uses clean DI's as well. Of course the question is open to everyone else who wants to chime in! :)