Gallien Krueger CX 410 + what head?

[S-Bigbottom]

I will upgrade to gk cx410 4ohms

Get the 8 ohm cab. The difference in volume you will not notice. With 4 ohms if you need more volume you are stuck with one cab, and are more likely to blow the speakers.
But with the 8 ohm you can add another 8 ohm cab later, with that you will notice a huge difference in volume.
With speaker size it depends on make and model not size. Even with two 15's buy the same company one model can be bright and not much lows, and the other
model has more lows and not so bright, or one that can do it all.
Welcome to TalkBass.

 

[Nuno Veloso]

Thank you all for replies. I´m afraid to spend my money for nothing in a 8ohms cab. Maybe it´s just my lack of knowledge about this topic. But here we don´t have stores to experience that. In future i don´t want more cabs because of space in my house and the car, and don´t have elevator in my 3th floor. I mainly play in bar, sometimes in open air. Now I'm more confused. You can check (if you want of course) my band: Ráphia Ráphia | Facebook

 

[S-Bigbottom]

I´m afraid to spend my money for nothing in a 8ohms cab. Maybe it´s just my lack of knowledge about this topic.

The 8 ohm just leaves you open if your situation changes and you want to add, with 4 ohm you can not. I know people and you read on this site that wish later that they had the option, then they need to get all new cabs instead of just adding one. We are just informing you on that.
The 4 ohm will work great and if that is what you decide, then enjoy. Just be careful of the bass and volume knobs if you hear the speakers sounding bad turn them down.

 

[Nuno Veloso]

We are just informing you on that.

I know that, and appreciate your help Is there so much problems with 4ohms cabs blowing? Never heard that, are they more sensible?

 

[S-Bigbottom]

Not the cabs fault, it is user error. Not saying you, but people that have problems are trying to squeeze out all of the watts to get more volume and end up burning them up. When what they needed is more speakers.

 

[Nuno Veloso]

Not the cabs fault, it is user error. Not saying you, but people that have problems are trying to squeeze out all of the watts to get more volume and end up burning them up. When what they needed is more speakers.

Oh...ok. I have another question, if i have a cx410 4ohms, a TC electronic Bh800 4ohms and push it hard i´ll have problems, but if i have 2 cx410 8ohms with the same amplifier and push it hard, i´ll have much more volume but the same problems of burning?

 

[B-string]

Oh...ok. I have another question, if i have a cx410 4ohms, a TC electronic Bh800 4ohms and push it hard i´ll have problems, but if i have 2 cx410 8ohms with the same amplifier and push it hard, i´ll have much more volume but the same problems of burning?

No, the two cabs will handle the power with no trouble.

 

[Nuno Veloso]

No, the two cabs will handle the power with no trouble.

So it´s like i have a single cab with 800w + 800w =1600w to a amp with 800w?
The two cabs of 8ohms will transform in a single cab of 8 speakers in 4ohms?
Or they stay 800w 4ohms and the power is 100w per speaker instead of 200w per speaker?

 

[B-string]

Normally most brands of cabs you cut the cab power handling in half for the low sounds (800/2 = 400 watt handling of low end), so the two cabs combine to handle 800 watts of pant flapping/room shaking and the amp will see a 4 ohm load to produce maximum power.

 

[Nuno Veloso]

Normally most brands of cabs you cut the cab power handling in half for the low sounds (800/2 = 400 watt handling of low end), so the two cabs combine to handle 800 watts of pant flapping/room shaking and the amp will see a 4 ohm load to produce maximum power.

Ok now i understand why the 4x10" 4ohms could blow, because each speaker could go to 200W, and the 2x 4x10" go 4ohms and will have 100w in each speaker (half the maximum).

 

[B-string]

Ok now i understand why the 4x10" 4ohms could blow, because each speaker could go to 200W, and the 2x 4x10" go 4ohms and will have 100w in each speaker (half the maximum).

Yes, exactly. Lessens the chance of mechanical damage (followed by electrical burning) when playing heavy and loud.

 

[Nuno Veloso]

Ok now i understand why the 4x10" 4ohms could blow, because each speaker could go to 200W, and the 2x 4x10" go 4ohms and will have 100w in each speaker (half the maximum).

It´s good to talk with someone who knows the matter, who sees it Thank you.

 

[S-Bigbottom]

If you have any questions do not be afraid to ask. It is better to ask how to do something you are unsure of, then to ask how to fix what you did wrong.
Now that B-string is back I will crawl back into my hole.

 

[B-string]

If you have any questions do not be afraid to ask. It is better to ask how to do something you are unsure of, then to ask how to fix what you did wrong.
Now that B-string is back I will crawl back into my hole.

You were doing a pretty good job yourself .

We have a Monsoon building here so I better get off the desktop before a power failure, if I start hearing the rumbles it gets shut down. No battery backups anymore .

 

[S-Bigbottom]

I always miss the rain when I am in Arizona. It will poor before of after but never during. when my brother goes that is all it does is rain.

 

[B-string]

I always miss the rain when I am in Arizona. It will poor before of after but never during. when my brother goes that is all it does is rain.

Is he in state this weekend ? It is supposed to be a good sized storm (flash flood warnings out till Sat. night). Love me some light and sound shows .

 

[Munjibunga]

Cabs don't make "wattage", they are rated for the amount of power you can stuff into them. Cabs turn that electrical power (watts) into sound (and waste heat).
RAG recommended the best match in his equipment line. The MB800 as an example can exceed 1,000 watts and would be a danger to the cab as would the Fusion 550, 1001RB II, MB Fusion 800. The man knows what to recommend as HE designed/engineered them.

Bob didn't say the MB800 is too much for that cab. He said the MB500 would be a better choice than the MB200. If it were me, I would go with the MB800. The cab's rated at 800 watts. (If you get the 8-ohm version of the cab, the amp will put out only 500 watts.) That's not to say you couldn't blow it with an MB800, but many of us can tell when a cab is being overdriven, and we know where the volume knob is. I almost always run amps rated at a higher wattage than the cab. It's no big deal.

 

[Nuno Veloso]

Hi!

I bought a Tc Electronic BH 800 and a Tecamp L410 Classic 4 ohms (1200w).
I´m very happy with the sound and volume.
Now i have a problem... how do i keep my amp head on top of the cabinet without moving with the vibration?
Is it OK for amp head with those vibrations?

Thank you all

 

[smogg]

Small piece of foam about 1 inch thick placed between amp and cab to absorb vibrations.

 

[Nuno Veloso]

Here it is