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Double Bass GAS Wizzy 110 with LMII

I'm currently Gassing on a Wizzy 110 coupled with the LittleMark II
does anyone use this amp rig and like it? I've been hearing very good things about the wizzy but not so much about the micro that i'm straying away form purchasing an all EA rig and maybe putting a Markbass to it.

i have a underwood with a Fishman Pro EQ preamp. I need a portable rig for next year where I won't have a car and will be primarily riding the subway or walking
 
I have the gear you are wondering about. I like using the Wizzy10 with the Micro as it is so easy to carry. The LMII head is small, but won't fit in the Wizzy10 backpack. I can say that the LMII head can play a lot louder, but the tone versus the Micro is very close. Current Micro's seem to working well. Note - the Wizzy10 by itself for BG is not as 'full sounding' as other 1x10 cabinets - such as the Bergantino HT110. BUT - for DB, the Wizzy10 is superb and it is a fraction of the weight and smaller than other 1x10's.
 
I have the gear you are wondering about. I like using the Wizzy10 with the Micro as it is so easy to carry. The LMII head is small, but won't fit in the Wizzy10 backpack. I can say that the LMII head can play a lot louder, but the tone versus the Micro is very close. Current Micro's seem to working well. Note - the Wizzy10 by itself for BG is not as 'full sounding' as other 1x10 cabinets - such as the Bergantino HT110. BUT - for DB, the Wizzy10 is superb and it is a fraction of the weight and smaller than other 1x10's.

hey mac,
thanks for the response.
i'm pretty sure i'm going to purchase a wizzy10 but can you compare the LMII w/ Wizzy with the Micro with the Wizzy?
many thanks
 
I did this LMII v. Micro 300 demo and briefly reported it on talkbass I think. I didn't hear a difference on BG - it's very close. There may be a difference bit it's small. Of course, the LMII has A LOT MORE POWER. But it's bigger (still not very big) and 1 channel. The LMII seems also to have stood the test of time, is VERY reliable, quite as mouse and well constructed. There are several inexpensive shoulder bags on the market that hold it nicely.

On the all-important DB test (running directly in with a Full Circle from a Cleveland ply bass), the Micro seemed more transparent and revealed the inherent woody-dark tone of a DB somewhat better than the LMII. If you use the Micro with a 4 ohm cabinet, you'll have enough power for just about any DB setting (short of the Setzer orchestra!) My Micro was a replaced unit and the hum is nearly gone...certainly low enough not to be an issue for me in any situation I can think of.
 
Went back to my original post...Ken really nails it!
Hello again from EB land. It would not surprise me that heads designed to be more 'flat' would work a little better with DB. The LMII really shines with EB and a large 4ohm cab. While the tone to me is very transparant (i.e., it's very open, wide, and clean sounding), it's not particularly 'flat', if that makes any sense. It is capable of stunning volume, huge lows, and very, very sizzly treble if you want it... that's not the optimal profile I think of when considering a good DB sound, although with those powerful filters and EQ, I bet it can sound good with some cabs and instruments.

I would not think a little Wizzy10 would really show what the LMII can do, since the LMII's primary strengths to me are a surprising low end ooomph, and a beautiful, crisp but still musical top end (i.e., 4K and up), and some quite aggressive mid growl when the amp is pushed...
 
I'll be giving the LMII plus Wizzy 10 a 3-hr workout at my gig tonight! :eek: :smug:

Anyone who lives in or near NYC, feel free to come by for a listen -- it's on the Upper East Side at a small bar called Carino (2nd Ave, btwn 88th and 89th).

Cheers,
Aram
 
OK, here's my review:

First, let me get one negative off my chest: the cab has Speakon inputs only! WHY?! I showed up at the gig with the cable I had been using (1/4" - 1/4"), assuming you could put a quarter inch through the middle of the Speakon jack (as in every other cabinet/head these days). I tried and tried, and either the input is too small, or there's no 1/4" capability. Thankfully, the gig was only 4 blocks from my apt, so I grabbed a Speakon cable...but STILL...why wouldn't they make it both?

OK, that was the one negative...a little frustrating, but I got over it. Now for the actual review:

For your reference, I was using an old (probably 100 yrs) Czech bass with a Realist pickup.

The EA cab worked equally as well as the Yamaha BBT110s I had been using for this gig...and that cabinet is a decent bit bigger (16-15/16"W x 14-5/8"H x 14-15/16"D, 32 lbs, as opposed to Wizzy's 15”H x 12”W x 11”D, 16 lbs). I believe that's a feat in and of itself. Volume was not a problem, although the venue admittedly is relatively small. Still, I don't think I've ever played an upright gig that required more than a 10" woofer for a volume bump.

The main difference with the Wizzy is there's a bit of a mid-push with everything left flat on the amp, whereas the Yamaha was even from top to bottom with no EQ. This was most likely due to the difference in cabinet size. The mid-push was the main reason the person I bought it from was selling it...he had been using it with an AI Clarus, and couldn't tame the mids (and also felt like it was missing lows). This was easily compensated for, however, with the LMII's VPF, and/or EQ controls. I experimented a little, and found I could get similar results with EQ flat, and VPF between 9:00 - 12:00, or VPF flat and cutting the mids (or any combination thereof). There was a nice synergy between the LMII's controls that I had never noticed because I hadn't needed it with electric bass.

One slight problem was a little bit of a peak with the open G string, but again that was fixed with a bit of mid-cut/VPF. Also, if you're one of those players that uses a gut G-string, I don't think that would be a problem. My strings on this bass are D'Addario hyrbids.

I think that, like the guy selling it, if I was a Clarus user, I would not be happy with this cab. We tried it in his apartment with both electric and URB, and with the 'cleanness' of the AI, it tended to be very 'peaky' in the mids. With the LMII set flat, it sounded way better than even the EQ'd Clarus, but still a little on the midrangey side. But with some minor EQ adjustments it sounded absolutely perfect.

I should also point out that in some circumstances, the midrange could work to your advantage, such as in a larger ensemble where you need to cut through. But since this gig was with just a hollowbody Gibson, and a guy playing snare with brushes, I preferred EQ-ing out the mids for a more natural sound.

My one gripe (besides the stupid Speakon-only) is that I wish the Wizzy was 8 ohms. I do get nervous pumping 500 watts through it (and I'm normally a guy that likes a lot of headroom, especially for EB). But as long as I keep an eye/ear on the volume, I think I'll be fine. Oddly, I'm perfectly comfortable cranking the Yamaha cab, which also contains only a 10"...maybe it's because I get nervous with the small size of the EA.

Overall, though, I'm very happy with the sound and volume I was able to get out of this tiny box. AND...I didn't even need to wheel it on a cart...I just carried it like a briefcase with no problem. Total rig weight: 22 lbs.

Oh, I snapped a quick shot of the rig with the guitar player's camera...so when he emails me the pics I'll post them up here.

Cheers,
Aram
 
Here's a pic of the rig, and the band:
 

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Nice review. I find the same results with BG. To make it workable, I cut the treble on the Micro300 head and max the bass control. This limits overall volume on the head, but tames the cabinet. This need is more extreme for BG than DB in my experience. Most of the BG raves on the cabinet were from people that heard them in a stack of 2.
 
I could see that -- for my volume needs though one cab was perfect. You can't really see the aspect ratio of the bar from that pic, but it's narrow and goes way back...but given where we're standing the bass carries well.