Genz Benz Shuttle Max Mixing Cab Impedance

[walterw]

Its a bit of a clunky setup, every time you adjust level you need to adjust and rebalance both amps.

then you might try the other method, where you feed the fx loop send of the genz into the fx loop return of the other amp, at which point the preamp and EQ of the genz runs both amps and one volume knob on the genz should turn the whole conglomeration up and down

 

[dcbee81]

then you might try the other method, where you feed the fx loop send of the genz into the fx loop return of the other amp, at which point the preamp and EQ of the genz runs both amps and one volume knob on the genz should turn the whole conglomeration up and down

Partly true, the individual channel vols on the GB will effect both but the individual master volumes on each amp will need to be adjusted separately if taking one or both up/down.

You might be onto something though, in practice I may be able to leave the masters set and tweak the whole system just by way of adjusting the preamps. Good shout!

 

[H Nighttrain]

Yes, good advice. I had a quick play with it tonight and more or less used that technique.

Its a bit of a clunky setup, every time you adjust level you need to adjust and rebalance both amps. Might give it a go with the band on friday to see if its practical but I can foresee it being a pain in the can potentially

I used to hook up two (very) different combos, I found the best way to dial in a baseline sound was to hook them both up (only option Ihad was tuner out on one to input of the other). Then I'd turn up one combo and make it sound "good" on its own; then turn down that combo and make the other one sound 'good", in its own way.

Then turn them both up to achieve the volume needed for whatever I was doing, thinking more about balancing the character of each voice. I may like one or the other to dominate the sound, other times a more even blend.

It's literally two independent rigs, just don't push either one past its volume capabilities.

 

[klyph]

Dude! You’re ALMOST there. Save those pennies for a matching cab. I’ve been gigging my 12.0 with 2x210, 2x15, and 2x12 cabs for well over a decade. A really great product.

 

[dcbee81]

Dude! You’re ALMOST there. Save those pennies for a matching cab. I’ve been gigging my 12.0 with 2x210, 2x15, and 2x12 cabs for well over a decade. A really great product.

So you would rate having 2x210 eden cabs than a 210 eden and a 115?

I’m guessing the answer might depend on what type of sound I want but to be honest i’m after versatility. I want to be able to play anything from wolfmother, black sabbath, beatles, muse, RHCP. I dont want to go all in on a targeted setup. The shuttle max is by all accounts quite a clean amp so any specific tone i want can hopefully come from my choice of bass and effects. Thoughts?

 

[klyph]

Thoughts?

Find a cab that you like the sound of, and get two. Or four.

Anybody talking about “a fifteen for the lows, “etc. is barking up the wrong tree.

You are not an audio engineer or an electrical engineer, but, luckily, all of the hard design work has been done for you. Mixing cabs, amps, etc. is usually a recipe for mud at some point.

Versatility comes from repeatability and consistency. Go for a small footprint, maximum height, and an array of matched speakers. When you do that, you increase the chances that every single person in the room is hearing the same thing (if your amp is carrying the room). The tonal balance that you seek to project needs to be happening before the signal reaches the speakers. It starts with how you hit the strings, and is mainly dictated by the pickups and the amp. The speakers are merely a vehicle- and mismatched speakers are an inefficient vehicle, so yes- you definitely want another 210 if you can get the same (or very similar) model.

Yes, the SM 12 is incredibly clean, accurate, and powerful enough to destroy most commercially available drivers, especially if you plan on using effects.
Mismatching cabs with an amp like that will result in audio Darwinism- the stronger cab will survive, the weaker one will go extinct (ask me how I know this) Save yourself the headache (and $$$) and refer to the first sentence in this post.

Good luck, and rock on!