GenzBenz 410t and 210t replacement Speakers

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Tanglehead, Jun 16, 2018.


  1. Tanglehead

    Tanglehead

    Nov 27, 2004
    Boulder, CO
    After years of downsizing, I needed a bigger rig for some summer outdoor shows. With limited income from these gigs, I took the cheap route and bought a GK 800RB and 2 GenzBenz cabs on Craigslist ($450 for the head, 410 and 210 cabs, although the 210 only had one speaker.) The 410 sounded great at in-house volume when I checked it out, but my first outdoor stage proved the 410 to have a blown speaker. I bought 2 Eminence BP102s to at least get the 210 running, but the speaker port is too small for the Eminence frame - the cuff sticks out, preventing the speaker to sit cleanly in the port.

    What are the best options for speaker replacements for the discontinued GBE 1040-8 speakers that were in these cabinets?
     
  2. jshinal

    jshinal

    May 28, 2013
    Raleigh, NC
    There were some GB replacements listed on eBay for a while, I think they were from late series cabinets, but they were the high quality Faital branded OEM 10s used in the GBs. You might check with Avatar speakers, too. I think he bought a large quantity of their old stock drivers.
     
  3. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa Boogie, Development Engineer-Genzler (pedals), Product Support-Genz Benz
    The BP-102 isn't a great choice for this cabinet (as you discovered).

    I still have some 16 ohm drivers (most of the 210 cabinets were 8 ohm not 4 ohm) for an 8 ohm cabinet... BUT if your 210 was a 4 ohm cabinet the blown speaker sound that you are hearing might in fact be the protection circuit operating because the two cabinets (if used together) together are below the amp's 4 ohm minimum rated load. It might sound fine at low volumes but not at gigging volumes.

    I do have recone kits in 8 ohms for the 410 (assuming that cabinet is really 8 ohms, though most were shipped as 4 ohm models), the same metalwork can be reconed as 8 or 16 ohms.

    Does your cabinet have the driver clamps that hold the driver in, or does it use 10-32 screws?

    PM me for info.
     
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  4. Tanglehead

    Tanglehead

    Nov 27, 2004
    Boulder, CO
    Thanks jshinal and agedhorse. Both cabs have driver clamps. The one speaker that was in the 210 was indeed an 8 ohm driver, model GBE-1040-8. I haven't pulled the drivers out of the 410 yet, but I'm assuming they're 8 omh drivers too.

    To clarify, it was the 410 that had issues at stage volume. One of the speaker cones was visually moving more than the other 3, leading me to think that it was bad. I have not tested the 210 cab, as it only had one speaker installed.

    With the single speaker that came in the 210, I was planning on replacing the assumed blown speaker on the 410, but I was hoping to be able to fix that blown on and purchase another to load into the 210.

    Agedhorse - thanks for the invitation and I'll definitely PM you about appropriate solutions.
     
  5. mbelue

    mbelue

    Dec 11, 2010
    He could run the 4 ohm 410 on the LO output and the 8ohm 210 on the HI output and keep them both full range.

     
  6. Tanglehead

    Tanglehead

    Nov 27, 2004
    Boulder, CO
    That was my plan, mbelue.
     
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  7. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa Boogie, Development Engineer-Genzler (pedals), Product Support-Genz Benz
    Check the wiring of the drivers
     
  8. mbelue

    mbelue

    Dec 11, 2010
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