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Getting used to a 5

I got my first 5 string today after years of p and jazz basses along with upright.

I keep getting lost so my question is how is the best way to get used to the extra string? Also once you get used to it, will there be a problem switching back and forth?

Each person's experience is a bit different.

I started on upright and later picked up 4-string BG. Later I transitioned to 5-string BG for few years before transitioning to 6-string BG. My #1 BG since about 1995 has been a Yamaha TRB6.

As has been suggested, put your 4-string BG in the case and leave it. You may be able to continue playing the upright, as it is different enough that it may not cause problems...but this depends on you.

I found boths transition slow and somewhat challenging. My belief is you use sort of a mental spatial map to nevigate the fretboard. This relates to what we call muscle memory. The idea is you intuitively know where to place your fingers without thinking about it too much...it's mostly automatic and subconscious.

IMHO if you pick up your 4-string BG, it will slow the transition because it either makes you use the wrong map or reinforces errors in whatever map you use.

It took me a few weeks to get comfortable with the extra string, but I would not say I was fluent. I had to think about it more, and I tended to get lost because my inaccurate automated process would take over. During this time I tried to focus more on the strings I was already familiar with, and play the extra string(s) only when absolutely necessary.

It took a few months before I started getting comfortable on the new string. I would stay it probably took about two years to regain all of the capabilities I had prior to the beginning of each transition. But getting comfortable on the new string(s) is not necessarily the end of the transition.

I would say it took at least a decade for me to really start thinking like a naturalized 6-string player. The extra strings give you more options for navigating the fretboard. To cover two octaves on 4-string, you need to shift up and down the neck. With a 6-string there is more tendency to play across the neck.

Now I can pick up a 4-string and 5-string and play. But I am most fluent on the 6-string. If I try to play a technically challenging line on a 4- or 5-string, I will need to stop more to figure out how to play it efficiently, rather than just doing it. Even worse, I find that the longer I play a 4- or 5-string, the more it degrades my fluency on 6-string. So I tend to spend the vast majority of my time on 6-string. I do try to play through my entire collection of basses a few times every year, but I don't play a 4- or 5-string for an extended time.

I also went through one additional transition. I originally used the same Simandl fingering system on upright and BG. But a few years after turning pro I decided to adopt one finger per fret on BG. So at this point I generally use totally different fingering system on upright and BG.
 
When I started on 5 I played it exclusively for I don't remember how long. Weeks at least, months maybe. When I played a 4 again it threw me off; not that I was using the low B much at all, but I'd gotten used where the strings were. I then sold the best sounding bass I've ever owned, a 70s P with active EMGs and passive controls. When I got another 4 and played it a bit I was able to go back and forth with confidence. I play a 5er most of the time because I'd rather have the low B and not need it than not have the low B and wish I had it.
 
When I started on 5 I played it exclusively for I don't remember how long. Weeks at least, months maybe. When I played a 4 again it threw me off; not that I was using the low B much at all, but I'd gotten used where the strings were. I then sold the best sounding bass I've ever owned, a 70s P with active EMGs and passive controls. When I got another 4 and played it a bit I was able to go back and forth with confidence. I play a 5er most of the time because I'd rather have the low B and not need it than not have the low B and wish I had it.
 
When I started playing bass, I had a four string jazz. I ended up having to sell it and didn’t play for about ten years. I was wanting to get back into a band but no bass…I got a Carvin catalog around that time in the mail and saw these beautiful five string basses.

My wife gave the green light to buy one so I purchased an all Koa five string…that was the only bass I owned and played for about 15 years so it was pretty easy to reprogram my brain and muscles. Inside those 15 years I also bought a Carvin 5 string fretless bass, all Koa again.

In the early 2000s I wanted to try playing a 4 stringer again and so I found an MIM jazz bass and bought it. It took a few days to re-acclimate myself to a 4 stringer but it wasn’t really that difficult. Now, thirteen basses later, I can switch between the two types without hardly a thought though I tend to grab a five stringer on the way out the door when I’m heading to a gig or some other event.

For me, it’s easier to move around between different keys on a fiver…plus I just love using the lower notes on the B string :bassist:.
 
Pretty easy to switch back and forth. This is how i do it, my 4 stringers have a thumb rest or I use the pickup on my p bass as a thumb rest. On my 5 string I use the 5th as a thumb rest. This means that strings 1-4 are the same position with my playing fingers on either bass. I will float my thumb off the 5th string when I play it. Try that.
 
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A five and a four-string bass are similar, yet different instruments.

Fives allow you to play across the fingerboard more than a four which tends to be more up & down the fingerboard. Damping strings is a different process. It's usually a bigger neck. Depending on what and where you play, it can need more amp.

I'd echo parking the fours and play the five only. Of course you're gonna feel like a duck on ice skates at first, but then we all did.

For me, when 'the light came on' was when I quit using open E and started tunes in E from the B-string. Play a two octave E-major scale beginning on the B-string and go across the fingerboard and end up on E on the G-string a few frets below the octave G. You see just how much ground you can cover from a single position. This is the real advantage I find. Buying one to pick up five extra low notes is an expensive waste of time.

this.
 
I got lost on my first 5'er as well but it was an Ibanez with 16.5mm spacing or something silly. I was always trying to fret the wrong string. Before that on a 4-string I was always tuning the E down to D. Now that takes some learning/unlearning!

Just play it, that's all. It's not an "extra" string, it's the low B and it has yummy low notes. That's it. The other strings are right where you left them.

There's plenty to be said for being able to play in the middle of the neck but those notes sound different in that position. Maybe that works for you, maybe it doesn't.

Anyway, the best thing you can do it play the 5'er exclusively for a while, it will begin to feel natural.
 
Repetition, repetition, repetition.

Start with easy stuff. Get used to that extra string.

I was able to adapt in a few days, but being a player for a living, I was able to work at getting used to 5s for most of the day.

The second day was when I would get frustrated. But I would take a break, make (another) cup of coffee and get back at it.

There is no quick method for learning anything.
 
For me the actual bass made a big difference in how quickly I could adapt. My first two five strings tripped me up and I just couldn’t get comfortable on them. Then I bought a six and, oddly enough, that bass was easier for me to adapt to than those fives. The first five string I felt immediately at home on was an MTD. So it wasn’t just a matter of string number - it was the feel of the neck and the string spacing - especially at the nut.
 
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It took me a while to get used to 5 strings. I found using the E on the fifth fret was helpful as a reference point and playing across the neck. I deliberately used the lower D often to force myself to play the B string.
I agree with those who say put the 4 string basses away for now. I never went back. 5 strings is all I play now.
 
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