"Ghosting"

[Buskman]

John Doe?

LOL - good one!

 

[jimmy rocket]

Drummers are usually the ones most ghosted on recordings.

I worked in studio with some of the same people who engineered a few recordings for one of the most notable punk/ska bands of the last 2 decades, and the drummer for said band was, how shall we say, less than rhythmically accurate.

Rather than ghosting, most of his stuff was just pushed around in pro tools. I wonder how much new recording technology has put an end to ghosting?

 

[willgroove2]

Rather than ghosting, most of his stuff was just pushed around in pro tools. I wonder how much new recording technology has put an end to ghosting?

I would say that pro-tools and the like have definitely changed the game as far as studio drumming goes,so many producers insist on replacing drum sounds and locking performances to a grid on all the tracks they do.Bass-wise it can be easy to grab 2 or4 good bars and cut and paste them on a track.I have producers who have me come in and play 4-8 bars of a song and a bunch of fills and they cut everything together. I generally don't like that way of working but their paying so there you go

 

[NS2A]

Ok, I've researched the Gene Simmons "ghosting" in depth going so far to ask current and present band members about it. So...

On the first 3 Kiss records, it's all Gene on every track.

Then, generally...
On Paul's songs from 1976 on, Gene was usually replaced by, Paul on bass. That's right, Paul, the guitar player.

So, from Destroyer through Unmasked, Gene played bass on Gene's songs.
In the 80's, Gene did not play any bass on Creatures, Animalize, Asylum or Crazy Nights, even Gene's own songs.

He played bass on Lick It Up (his songs on the album) and his songs on Hot In The Shade.

Then in the 90's, Gene generally played bass on Gene's song, but not on Pauls.

Bruce Kulick, the lead guitarist, played a lot of bass on Kiss records once he was in the band in 1985.

Gene wanted Bruce to play bass on Gene's songs on Carnival of Souls, but Bruce told him to "do it yourself".

Various session players played on Kiss albums here and there (Jimmy Halsip, Jean Bouvier come to mind) but a lot of it was handled within the band.

There.

 

[BigSlick]

There's the Pink Floyd bass "situation".

Care to elaborate? I know on some rather difficult tracks Gilmour would play the bass part (One of These Days comes to mind) but what else?

Waters himself was never known to be a great bass player.

 

[sal87]

i know that gilmour played the fretless bass on hey you and pillow in the wind from the meddle album. man that's going way back to like eighth grade for me. looks like pot didn't totally destroy my memory after all.

i always disliked the album version of return of the space cowboy, nobody could take zender's place in jamiroquai.