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Gibson Thunderbird or Fender Precision?

Buy a Japanese P-bass and an epi thunderbird. Then you can have both for about 400 less than a new American P-bass and 800 less than ONE new thunderbird :)


I've been googling a lot the last couple of weeks. I want to buy my first 'professional' bass. It's come down to these two: Gibson Thunderbird or Fender Precision.

The Thunderbird is pretty rare here I believe, but I won't be buying a Precision if I know I really want the other.

The music my band plays is similar to:
- Arctic Monkeys
- The Strokes
- Kings of Leon
- bit of Muse

I'd love to try both out but I don't know where I can find a Thunderbird right now... Until then, this will have to do.

The Precision seems to be a right choice - Great sound, readily available, good for rock... But the Thunderbird has it's awesome looks and deep sound.

At the moment I'm leaning towards the Thunderbird. What are the opinions here? Please keep the style of my band in mind when commenting :)
 
Precision bass. You can use it for everything and if you wanna do Muse you'll need upper fret access. Something a T-bird lacks. It also tends to be a bit muddy at times.

I'm just going to come in and say this..


GeneralElectric is 100% against Gibson basses.

"The 3 point bridges are crap, the pickups are terrible in a band setting, short scale, neck dive, sounds like farts"
 
I'm just going to come in and say this..


GeneralElectric is 100% against Gibson basses.

"The 3 point bridges are crap, the pickups are terrible in a band setting, short scale, neck dive, sounds like farts"

The fact that you took that from the thread where he was talking about the EB series basses (I know as I was a part of that as well) makes your statement invalid.

How you gather that he is 100% against Gibson basses is questionable.
 
Think about what makes the Thunderbird so cool.........not everybody has one! If you want to separate yourself from the average player, then strap on something that stands out.
Here y'go. Knock yourself out:
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a P is much more price worthy to you,and they usually are just as good of quality as a T,however,i think that YOU should pick which bass feels the best to YOU.if you want the T,and think its worth saving up for it,then do it.both of them are great basses,and im sorry but i disagree with most of the people calling the T crap.cause ive played them before and they actually have a great feel to me,and its NOT muddy,only unless you have your lows in your EQ turned up all the way,or alot for that matter.but id say go with a P cause they cost a lot less,and have just as good of a sound,but if you think you want the gibson,then go for it.its your money.
 
I'm in the 'get the P first' camp.

I love T-birds and have owned a nice one, and wouldn't mind having it back, but for one bass only the P would have to get my vote.

Live you will have an easier time nailing the various tones from the bands you have cited (and the Kings of Leon's bassplayer's tone is not necessarily one that really needs a 'bird to recreate), and it might serve you better in the long run for other kinds of music.

Or if you really want to be different and can't decide between them, you can always get a non-rev Fenderbird...
 
First of all: thanks for all the responses!
I've picked some out here but all of them are useful.
get an american p deluxe. seriously my favorite long scale bass i've ever played; and i have played many, including vintage legend basses that left me fairly disappointed.
used they'll commonly go for 500-800bucks and they are super versatile, comfortable, and look great too. i recommend a 90s model if you can find it since i haven't played one of the new new ones yet but they look pretty good too.
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Those do look awesome. If I'd get a Precision this would certainly be an option.
Me wants to tell you that the T-Bird is the best choice... But I wont. The P-bass would be better for your style of music, and it's an easier-to-maintain overall bass, with more tonal range and better fret access.

On the other hand; nothing, IMO, beats a T-Bird. I play higher on the frets too, but my hands have found a way of compensating for the poor access (mind you it'll one day be the end of my wrist, lol).

What's odd though, is that I've never had a problem butting my Bird in a regular guitar stand. Just put the strap peg against the left arm of the stand (on a right handed bass, obviously) so that the "Y" arms of the stand (you know, the cradle that holds your basses body) tilts down to the left, and then lean her back into the neck rest. In fact, I rarely even have trouble putting it into a standard 5-guitar rack. :D
Okay, I thought it would work, I'll scrap that from the cons list ;)

And that's exactly what I'm thinking right now. P-bass is the 'obvious' better choice, but, the other's a Thunderbird.
Rickenbacker. 'nuff said.
Had that on my list for a while, but the looks and sound don't really match what I want.
Think about what makes the Thunderbird so cool.........not everybody has one! If you want to separate yourself from the average player, then strap on something that stands out. The tone of both basses is similar, dark, midrangey, nice low-fundamental. Remember that while some say the T-Bird is a one-trick pony, it actually has two pickups, which can equal lots of different tones. Dont get me wrong, the Precision is great and in a perfect world, I would get both, matter of fact, I have both, and use them both, myself. But if you want to be an individual, then go for the T-bird. They do fit on stands, BTW. They are fragile, that is true, but its wood, its repairable, so if you want a trophy to hang on your wall, dont get one, but if youre gonna go play the crap out of it, dont worry about snapping the neck, cause it can be fixed! Hope this helps!
It helped a lot in fact :) Wiped away some of my worries.

It's true not everybody has one - but this could also be a con. I know about two bassists that have one (Entwistle and Kings of Leon's Jared Followill), so you'd possibly look like you got one because they have got one. But of course it's stupid to buy or not buy one because of what others do ;)
listen to me and no one else. Go play both and decide ;)

Both are great rock, pop, blues, metal and punk basses. One of them is more versatile than the other due two pickups although both are called one trick ponies.

If you have a good, powerful amp both are going to deliver the goods.
Oh, I totally mean to! Definately should when buying things for 1500+ dollars. But I don't know where I can try the Thunderbird right now. I'm in the Netherlands :)
you'll have an easier time getting laid if you go w/the T ;)
So, where did you say I have to transfer my money to...? ;)
a P is much more price worthy to you,and they usually are just as good of quality as a T,however,i think that YOU should pick which bass feels the best to YOU.if you want the T,and think its worth saving up for it,then do it.both of them are great basses,and im sorry but i disagree with most of the people calling the T crap.cause ive played them before and they actually have a great feel to me,and its NOT muddy,only unless you have your lows in your EQ turned up all the way,or alot for that matter.but id say go with a P cause they cost a lot less,and have just as good of a sound,but if you think you want the gibson,then go for it.its your money.
Well, I'm taking money out of the equation here. I want to buy my first 'real' bass and I'm planning to use it solely when I get it. I own a Ibanez SGR500 right now. It's a pretty good bass imo, but I'm a band and I'm thinking 'man, I just want an awesome guitar'.

Many thanks for your reply :)
Live you will have an easier time nailing the various tones from the bands you have cited (and the Kings of Leon's bassplayer's tone is not necessarily one that really needs a 'bird to recreate), and it might serve you better in the long run for other kinds of music.
I'm not buying any guitar because I want to recreate any bands tone. It's just that they both sound great in other bands - with the T-bird having its distinct, low sound which is just brilliant in KoL tracks.
 
He gets cool tone with KOL, kind of sits under the mix with some pick-like attack even when he plays pizzicato. A lot of the time in rock you hear a Thunderbird overdriven, this shows how nicely they can work with cleaner tone.
 
Hi.

Just me but I'd own the Thunderbird.......
They certainly fit on a stand (at least all 9 of mine do!)
They have their own idiosycrasies that make them a great bass, hopefully youi'll get to try one.

Not just You, Thunderbird would get my vote also if this was a poll.

I only have the Epi version which is quite different I know, but not that much IME. It's as versatile an instrument as You want it to be, just takes some knob wiggling.

As for the stand, I modified one regular to cradle the body differently, but nowadays use only a 5 bass folding case type. If the stage space isn't too cramped, there's no way any of my instruments will ever be on regular stands.

Regards
Sam
 
I'm just going to come in and say this..


GeneralElectric is 100% against Gibson basses.

"The 3 point bridges are crap, the pickups are terrible in a band setting, short scale, neck dive, sounds like farts"

The fact that you took that from the thread where he was talking about the EB series basses (I know as I was a part of that as well) makes your statement invalid.

How you gather that he is 100% against Gibson basses is questionable.



Thats AmpegSVT for at least having common sense. :)

Bassmasta, I sold a 68 Gibson EB-2 recently, and I still own a 64 T-Bird. (Currently being repaired due to another headstock failure) If you bothered into looking into my profile, I own Gibson guitars and basses, and as I've mentioned here in the past, I've owned several in the past. Way to fail. :p:)

As for saying I'm 100% against Gibsons, no I'm not. (Aside from the obvious fact of ownership) I think there are plenty of glaring design flaws in them which don't make them viable instruments for many different kinds of playing styles and genres. Especially as a main instrument. You can make an argument that a bass player is more important than the bass he plays, and should be able to get a usable sound in most situations, but you'd have to concede the point that, yes, indeed, some basses are better suited to tasks than others.

If I was a satisfied 8th note rocker (not that there is anything wrong with that) I'd be happy with it. But I'm not. I think the T-Bird is a good enough rock bass, and yes, nothing really sounds like them, but there are, IME and IMO, much better basses out there. Not to mention the fact that if you consider yourself a musician, you try not to limit yourself to one genre (like just rock, or just reggae) and you should be able to cover as many styles as you can.

Since a bass is just a tool, it only makes sense to use the more versatile (i.e. useful) tool. Kind of like why just have a screw driver if you could have a multi-tool?
The P-Bass has long been considered an essential part of the bassist's tool bag. The T-Bird? Not so much.
 
You've got great taste in music, sir!

I know Nikolai Fraiture of The Strokes uses mostly Fender Jazz Basses (occasionally a P, rickenbacker, or stingray).

Jared Followill of KOL uses a thunderbird.

The arctic monkeys bassist uses a p bass, and I'm not sure about muse.

You sound like a rock type of guy, so you might go with the Thunderbird (a quintessential rock bass, no?). Make sure you play a couple p basses and thunderbirds and see which one you think plays and sounds better.

EDIT: You might also want to get a fender jazz bass. I own one, and it is GREAT for rock music- it has a nice thin neck and a zingy, growly sound. It also works nicely in other genres with just a couple knob turns. However, that's personal preference. A lot of bassists like thicker necks and thuddier, thicker sounds- play a bunch of basses and pick the one you think suits you best.