I say break the little twerps fingers, pop him once in the adams apple and see how many gigs he gets then.
But I used to live outside Philly
But I used to live outside Philly
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Gig money split?
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Yeah, that will really solve all the problems. 
It would make you feel better for a while though...
It would make you feel better for a while though...
Just walk away with the lesson learned.
The guy is a tool and any dealings with him will be a cluster. The cash is not that important and not worth the trouble. In the future, work out the expectations of pay in advance.
In my band, I have chosen to have certain items of PA equipment. Other members have also contributed simlarly. We reimburse each person for the costs of maintenance, repairs or replacement value. We also reimburse people for the depreciated value of equipment. So if we need a new monitor, I may buy it for $300. If the typical used price is $200, the band pulls out $100 over a few gigs to reimburse me the difference.
This way, the band is just paying ongoing "expenses" - not buying assets. No one is gaining or losing money and there is nothing to split if the band breaks up or someone leaves.
The guy is a tool and any dealings with him will be a cluster. The cash is not that important and not worth the trouble. In the future, work out the expectations of pay in advance.
In my band, I have chosen to have certain items of PA equipment. Other members have also contributed simlarly. We reimburse each person for the costs of maintenance, repairs or replacement value. We also reimburse people for the depreciated value of equipment. So if we need a new monitor, I may buy it for $300. If the typical used price is $200, the band pulls out $100 over a few gigs to reimburse me the difference.
This way, the band is just paying ongoing "expenses" - not buying assets. No one is gaining or losing money and there is nothing to split if the band breaks up or someone leaves.
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I think this should be a major lesson jamtwins. Your daughters are 15, and you are their parent, right?
Instead of going over to the kids house to argue with him and his parents, it should be the girls job. Its also a lesson to them about being in a band. I'm assuming that this is their first paying band, and they should use this experience to go into other bands knowing what to ask and what to get out of the way before it became an issue.
I have a feeling that if your girls thought about it (85%?!) they would have talked about it way before it became an issue and nipped it in the bud right before the first gig.
Instead of going over to the kids house to argue with him and his parents, it should be the girls job. Its also a lesson to them about being in a band. I'm assuming that this is their first paying band, and they should use this experience to go into other bands knowing what to ask and what to get out of the way before it became an issue.
I have a feeling that if your girls thought about it (85%?!) they would have talked about it way before it became an issue and nipped it in the bud right before the first gig.
That BS right there. Here's what's fair. There's 4 people in the band ? Split the money 5 ways, with the extra share going to him. That's the way we did it when I owned the PA, at my band's insistance no less. Because, they didn't want to hear it if something blows up. That's as good a deal as anyone in a similar situation should get.
i've been in roughly the same situation: the other two members, owning the PA, tried to get me to agree to give one share toward payment of debt incrued, then one share toward band expenses, then one share toward 'rental' of PA, then one share toward space rental (drummer and father used place as business), electricity, etc., not to mention extra going to the rainmaker.
bottom line would have been me making bupkis, all the while making them sound good, which they couldn't on their own...neither did i ever use the PA in any way.
the band i'm in now, the other two own the PA, but split the proceeds equally. they understand that money talks, and m!*rd@ de toro walks...they are much better musicians, too.
i could understand if there is one extra split for the guy if he is the rainmaker as well as PA person...but, past that, it's usury, and as far as i'm concerned, nothing mentioned prior=full, equal split.
bottom line would have been me making bupkis, all the while making them sound good, which they couldn't on their own...neither did i ever use the PA in any way.
the band i'm in now, the other two own the PA, but split the proceeds equally. they understand that money talks, and m!*rd@ de toro walks...they are much better musicians, too.
i could understand if there is one extra split for the guy if he is the rainmaker as well as PA person...but, past that, it's usury, and as far as i'm concerned, nothing mentioned prior=full, equal split.
It sounds like you have a ready made rythm section who play together well. Invest in a decent pa and hire out to other players. There are more of them than us and you can decide your own fees.
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Our booking agent takes 10% off the top
PA/lighting/backline crew split $600(in town)
Guitar tech $50
Expense account(T-shirts,etc.) $100
Band splits the remainder 5 ways
This is if the gig is in town.
If gig is out-of-town, additional expenses include:
Fuel for band van
Airline tickets(if needed)
Hotel rooms
Extra pay for crew
PA/lighting/backline crew split $600(in town)
Guitar tech $50
Expense account(T-shirts,etc.) $100
Band splits the remainder 5 ways
This is if the gig is in town.
If gig is out-of-town, additional expenses include:
Fuel for band van
Airline tickets(if needed)
Hotel rooms
Extra pay for crew
