GK Legacy 1200 Have Bi-Amp Mode?

[Wasnex]

If I'm recalling correctly, Forest @fgallien mentioned that they had returned to NL4s but I am not sure of the production date when it changed. As you say, safety first…

Hopefully...IMHO using NL2 makes no sense.

For clarification. NL2 panel mounts are keyed to only accept NL2 plugs...so an NL4 cable will not fit.

NL4 panel mounts will accept either NL2 or NL4 plugs. Most amps accept NL4 but only use Pins 1+ and 1-. So you can use NL2 or NL4.

Also, just because a cable has NL4 plugs, does not mean Pins 2+ and 2- are wired. Some cables use NL4 and 2-conductor wire. This was common years ago because NL4 plugs were considered to be a superior design. Since then, Neutrik updated NL2 plugs.

 

[Wasnex]

I had the Legacy 800, Fusion S 800 and the Fusion S 1200. Last year. All had NL2.

AFAIK NL2 panel mounts are labeled.

Notice the outer edge of the connector is labeled "NL2* 2 POLE KEYED"

 

[johnthebass]

Never come across NL4s. If an amp has NL4s how do they connect to the speaker, which is designed for NL2s. Do you still have all three amps? Why did you get all 3.

 

[Wasnex]

Never come across NL4s. If an amp has NL4s how do they connect to the speaker, which is designed for NL2s.

It's easy. NL4 has 4 pins. 1+, 1- and 2+,2-. Bass gear is typically wired to 1+,1-, however the old GK RB series and compatible cabs used all four pins of the NL4 for biamp.

NL2 uses only pins 1+, 1-. They connect to the same exact place inside the connector.

Combination Connectors also accept NL2 and NL4, but they only have pins 1+, 1-. The also have a slot for a 1/4" plug.

Notice the green hue.

 

[johnthebass]

Thanks very much very helpful. So I suppose the short answer is plug it in

 

[wave rider]

Help Deciding between Mesa and GK Amp Head

"Just wanted to clear this up, we went back to using jacks that accept both NL2 and NL4 speakons on all of our products, there will probably be a couple still floating around that only take the NL2, but as of March/April 2022 everything shipping out has jacks that accept both!"

Here we go.

 

[fgallien]

If I'm recalling correctly, Forest @fgallien mentioned that they had returned to NL4s but I am not sure of the production date when it changed. As you say, safety first…

This is correct, we moved back to NL4s towards the beginning of the year

 

[ModulusMK]

I had the Legacy 800, Fusion S 800 and the Fusion S 1200. Last year. All had NL2.

@fgallien @joel406
I'm thinking of getting either the Legacy or the Fusion S. How would you compare them sound wise? Some are saying Legacy can be cold and harsh and some say Fusion is mellow, which isn't really a GK signature sound so I'm confused.

I've heard most of the YouTube videos and sound demos but it's too hard to tell the difference that way.

For a reference, I do like the old RB's growl and punchy mids/highs, but also they seemed to be warm sounding too which is great sweet spot for me.

 

[johnthebass]

Yes I can get a nice growl of it and for a mellow I sound I play with the thumb. I love the amp. It could be warmer I agree but when I gig looking for a warmer sound it can get muddy at high volumes. If recording I think there are warmer sounds out there

 

[joel406]

@fgallien @joel406
I'm thinking of getting either the Legacy or the Fusion S. How would you compare them sound wise? Some are saying Legacy can be cold and harsh and some say Fusion is mellow, which isn't really a GK signature sound so I'm confused.

I've heard most of the YouTube videos and sound demos but it's too hard to tell the difference that way.

For a reference, I do like the old RB's growl and punchy mids/highs, but also they seemed to be warm sounding too which is great sweet spot for me.

GK "claims" all the growl we came to know, and love is still there.

It ain't! I checked.


The new line of GK amps sent me running into the arms of Mesa Boogie. And I was a loyal GK user since 1978.

I owned every amp they now produce that was 800 watts and up. Could not get a usable sound. Through quality cabs to boot.

I would advise steering clear of GK unless you know what you're getting into. Perhaps their sound is what you want. I was left disappointed.

I don't like to dis on a company. Especially one I have decades of history with. But GK is done.

 

[ModulusMK]

GK "claims" all the growl we came to know, and love is still there.

It ain't! I checked.


The new line of GK amps sent me running into the arms of Mesa Boogie. And I was a loyal GK user since 1978.

I owned every amp they now produce that was 800 watts and up. Could not get a usable sound. Through quality cabs to boot.

I would advise steering clear of GK unless you know what you're getting into. Perhaps their sound is what you want. I was left disappointed.

I don't like to dis on a company. Especially one I have decades of history with. But GK is done.

So what you're saying the new ones are not even close to the old RBs? I've never played on the original, I do have the MB200 which is the most basic version of all, and can't truly compare it myself to the RB, but it does have some growl to be honest. I'm saying "some" cause there's no trim pot on this, not even volume pot, the gain pot is the volume and the sound changes as the volume goes up but I think the general GK characteristics are there. It's clean, punchy, articulate and fast and I love it cause of that. Especially for its size.

I just want to upgrade to Legacy or Fusion S. Someone in here has the older MB Fusion 500 and the new Legacy 800. He compared them side by side. Apparently the Legacy is pretty close, probably very very close to the RB and can recreate that growl, but the Fusion is a little more mellow. Also, apparently the bass, the low end on the Legacy is tighter and more defined, rather than rounder as on the Fusion.

By what the guy said the difference isn't drastic but definitely present, while both exhibiting GK characteristics and the Legacy being still very GK.

The overall sound will depend on the instrument too. I have a custom bass I made myself during covid with an LP and custom preamp and sounds crazy good on GK, even on the tiny MB200.

This tells me I should lean towards the Legacy for the upgrade, and now you came in with this . But I wanted some more feedback.

The visual design on the Fusion S is awesome btw. I wish Legacy looked like that and was pushbutton on the knobs rather than separate switches.